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Steel Brake Lines?

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#1 ·
I have a 2015 SS and took it down to Homestead-Miami Speedway the other week for and HPDE event. The car ran great but I'm looking to up grade the brakes for my next event. I've been doing some research and can't find anybody that makes steel brake lines for the car. Has anyone upgraded their brake lines and if so who makes them and where can I get them?

Thanks,

Kyle
 
#10 ·
I've opened a dialogue with Goodridge on their fitment offerings for Zeta sedans. Even though their G8 GT kit 12289 "works", they will be validating this, and looking at differences between the G8 kit, developed for VE, and the VF fitment variants, which do have some different brackets, by model year (PBR vs Brembo rear calipers).

I'm not saying 12289 doesn't work, just bringing it to their attention that IF it does work for multiple applications, would they please put that information in their catalog to make it official.

Got a reply the same day, and they're looking into it in their own methodical way, so...stay tuned.
 
#8 ·
I have a '14, I removed the single piston floating caliper with anchor and installed a set of Brembo 4 piston like the '15, the stock banjo bolt and hose fit fine so I would say the interchangeability is good
 
#12 ·
For those of y'all that have done SS brake lines, what's the difference like? I was looking into this before getting my SS because my old 2002 WRX has awful brakes and SS lines are pretty much mandatory, but I kept hearing how the G8 crowd was never really impressed with adding SS lines to this platform.

I mean, the SS stock brakes are already fantastic. What does SS lines get you in this car?
 
#13 ·
I haven't done the steel braided on the SS, the stock hoses are too new.


From past experience, I can't say that I've really notice any difference in the pedal. Truthfully, the SS has the hightest firmest pedal of any OEM new car or old that I've ever felt.
 
#15 · (Edited)
The several previous responses are essentially my take on the matter as well.

A new vehicle isn't where changing to a "high performance" brake hose package is going to provide any dramatic difference, let alone improvement.

In 5 years or longer, there CAN be a difference--flexible rubber brake hoses do deteriorate, but they are required to meet quite high specifications, by US DOT and other standards. The aftermarket has the ability to provide a qualified product, AND to offer it to meet not only DOT specs, but also at other, perhaps higher (European/TUV/etc) standards--and in many cases, provide the hoses for equal or lower cost than the OE hoses.

In the specific case of the Zeta sedan platform, there are multiple variants with several different brake packages....the production "performance" brakes, ranging from G8 GT>GXP, 2014 SS>2015 SS, and other possible fitments, such as Caprice PPV and Holden branded cars--for backfit to earlier or different models with the better brake offerings that have come along later in the Zeta timeline. A range of performance hose kits, as offered by Goodridge, will ensure there is a proper hose combination, validated by the supplier, for that purpose.

As stated earlier, my intent was to ask Goodridge about validating the G8 GT kit for additional/similar brake combinations, such as the 2014 SS (ie. same as the GXP variant)--and to show it as such in their product list. The transition from VE to VF apparently resulted in enough differences to cause Goodridge to consider it necessary to create new kits specifically for the different versions.

My contact with Goodridge provided indication that they do understand the multiple variants involved, and that there would be effort made to elevate the validation of Zeta in their priority list for new fitments.
 
#24 ·
to add a little kerosene to the conversation, I bought an acura with 3,000 miles on it, swapped the lines to stainless steel at 10,000 miles and the difference in feel was HUGE. So big that when I bought a new car I felt the brakes felt like sh!t even though the new car stopped shorter.

The feel was improved with the SS but I was still thinking about getting new lines for awhile.

So in my experience, the lines were a huge improvement (in feel). The Acura had 4 piston Advic clampers.
 
#25 ·
I have not done my SS, but I have done other cars. What I think you get with stainless lines is repeatability and the same feel every time. Our cars are big and heavy and I'm sure the brakes can get quite hot, so stainless lines are probably a good investment when it's time to replace brake lines. I won't tear out new lines to put steel lines on, but I will upgrade when it's time to do brake lines.


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#29 ·
I have not done my SS, but I have done other cars. What I think you get with stainless lines is repeatability and the same feel every time.....
Exactly! And not just the same feel but the same performance as well!

No expansion in the rubber, no cracking/leaking/blistering. Barring direct damage, the steel lines don't deteriorate. So braking performance won't deteriorate....at least, not because of the lines ;) .

KW
 
#26 ·
Lol @ sensitive. Good one. I just don't get guys like you who feel the need to be a keyboard commando. I'm not going to sit here and not defend myself.


I was simply stating that the new fluid *might've* been the reason for the improved feel, especially if the fluid had been in there for a long time. I didn't miss anything in your post. I just didn't feel the need to repeat the obvious.
 
#28 ·
Lol @ sensitive. Good one. I just don't get guys like you who feel the need to be a keyboard commando.....
What? I'm a "keyboard commando" because I stated; "You didn't REALLY pay attention to his post....or mine"?

Seriously dude.....you whine like a child.


Oops....there I go again.....'keyboard commandoing'.......


KW
 
#27 ·
Having steel ines is a good idea, the factory has used them for as long as I can remember, but, I've never heard of.... rubber lines.

Seriously though, I looked and looked and could not find any rubber lines, only steel ones.


Stir, stir, stir the pot :devil
 
#30 ·
LOL.....OEM brake lines have historically been made of rubber. More recently, they have been a rubber/silicon synthetic type of material.....that most folks still call "rubber".

If the OEM line are now stainless steel or even steel-lined, then that's news to me....not saying it ain't true or possible, just "news" to me :) .

KW
 
#34 ·
Grrrrrowl :devil
 
#35 ·
Come on guys! Let's get this thread out of the weeds and back on the intended path.
You welcome to go to the lounge or to PMs to continue with your little side battle. :)
 
#36 ·
This feels like I just walked into closing at the Titty Twister.
:devil
Anyway, other things too play with first. I'm gathering that many miles out of existing lines to be had. Steel later as they will last some time longer at replacement.
 
#40 ·
If you go to the show to section and check out the 6 Piston Brembo conversion thread all of the information on getting the Goodridge ZL1 lines to work on the SS is there. I bought the front brackets from Goodridge, and followed SSLogic's how to in using grommets and stainless nuts and bolts to mount the mid line attachments to the SS.
 
#46 ·
Did SSlogic ever get hoses made from his vendor? In the TBSS community a company called Clarksville Fasteners made custom hoses for our trucks. The quality was phenomenal and they came in pretty much any color you could think of. The hoses are fully DOT compliant and having the choice for custom colors was a big plus. If someone has a set laying around to ship to me I would be glad to see if Jason at Clarksvile Fasteners could replicate them. They were I believe $175 for front and rears, which is a steal in my opinion. I had them on both trucks I owned and would love to have the same option for our cars. Here's a link to their site for custom hoses.

Custom Brake Hoses
 
#47 · (Edited)
I just picked up a set of "correct" custom hoses yesterday--must verify fit before I say anything more.

Pictures to follow, along with fitment results--plan is to (finally!) install a full Brembo setup on my PPV in the coming week, and from everything I've searched & compared, the hoses for PPV & SS look like they'll be the same as far as fit/form/function, whether stock PPV or Brembo conversion, 2011-2017, or on SS, 2014-2017.

Stay tuned!
 
#48 ·
Interested in this!