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Neutral regardless of the brand

4.2K views 21 replies 8 participants last post by  G8a550  
#1 ·
Given the less than perfect weight distribution of the SS, how can you approach neutral handling? Getting the roll resistance right goes a long way. This chart assumes solid sway bars of the same length, but the principle remains the same for hollow bars except the values change proportionally. (Wall thickness is all, a really thick wall hollow is the same as a solid bar of the same diameter)
SWAY BAR DIAMETER CONVERSION CHART
The below chart is an indicative guide only to show percentage (%)
BL-281 Whiteline Sway bar diameter conversion chart (studylib.net)
 
#4 ·
Mine is near perfect with all me junk in the trunk. It is a little fat on the driver's side, overweight on the driver's side, heavy on the driver's side. Umm, mine weighs less on the passenger side.
Actually they all weigh a bit more on the (US) driver's side, as the battery was strategically placed where it is by the Holden engineers to offset the weight of the (RHD) driver in AU. (y)
 
#9 ·
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This is my 1996 dog car, Fleetwood 8000 pound stretch Limo. That is a front frame brace and a 1 1/2" solid front sway bar. Matches the HA 1 1/2" solid rear sway bar. With full hard Koni's,
15 X 8" widened Limo wheels and 275/60-15's lap time @VIR = C4 Corvette. The 330 HP LT-4 w/aluminum heads gets a lot of the credit too.
 
#14 ·
My 14 Caprice PPV with only me (200lbs) is 51/49 front/rear within a 100 lbs difference front/rear. If I filled up the gas tank I imagine it would be exactly 50/50.
 
#18 ·
Just posted elsewhere:
It is very confusing because BMR insisted on following Holdens lead when they labelled, they're over the engine (looks like a shock tower brace but mounts 10 inches lower) brace, a sub frame connector.
This is the one they used to sell as a Sub Frame Connector. I have their old links showing just that.
BMR Suspension STB012 - Strut Tower Brace, Front - 2008-2009 Pontiac G8
Maximum confusion ensued.
As it is welded to the sub frame when properly installed, it really is a SFC. Just not anything like what they also called a SFC:
BMR Suspension SFC013 - Subframe Connectors, Bolt-on - 2008-2009 Pontiac G8
Today I have both installed on my 2014 PPV's along with a Whiteline STB, parallel to the BMR one inch in front of it. No, they do not do the same thing as the Whiteline stabilizes the shock attachment point and the BMR IS a reinforcement of the subframe, along with this:
Adjustable Front Subframe Chassis K-Member Brace | 2010-2015 Chevrolet Camaro | eBay

"You want a belt and suspenders with that suit?" Early Marx Brothers quote.
 
#19 ·
Dug up the gravel company data:
After installing all the above braces and pulling out ~40 pounds of wire and replacing the back seat with the dog hammock:
Empty but with dual batteries in the rear on local gravel company scale:
cross body weight distribution
left side 50.64 %
weight on left front tire 1097 pounds
" " " " 1141 "

right side 49.36%
weight on left rear tire 1054
" right " " 1141

front/back weight distribution
50.27% front
49.63 % rear
 
#20 ·
Dug up the gravel company data:
After installing all the above braces and pulling out ~40 pounds of wire and replacing the back seat with the dog hammock:
Empty but with dual batteries in the rear on local gravel company scale:
cross body weight distribution
left side 50.64 %
weight on left front tire 1097 pounds
" " " " 1141 "

right side 49.36%
weight on left rear tire 1054
" right " " 1141

front/back weight distribution
50.27% front
49.63 % rear
Double check the weights shown as they're not adding up.