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For anyone else reading this, if you haven't been able to tell from my other posts, you are 100% allowed to dial in whatever alignment settings you want using the factory hardware in any class of SCCA autocross. What you are not allowed to do in Street, is change the hardware, such as using an eccentric bolt with a different cam profile, unless the factory service manual permits it. So if you can dial in -1.5 degrees of negative camber at the front on the stock eccentrics, go for it. Not only will it help optimize the cornering capability, it will also help save the outside edge of your tires from wearing down too quickly.
This is partially true. OEM eccentric crash bolts are allowed but you have to be careful on how much negative camber you dial in. I used to run Mustangs in FS and if you ran more than -2.1 degrees camber, with crash bolts, at a National event, you would be protested and DQ'd. You could always get more but you were not allowed to. I'm not saying neg camber does not help. It does. Running as much as you can does not fit the Street category, which was and is entirely my point. There are limitations.
 

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Ok bud. I hope your settings work out for you. Just trying to help you get faster. yeesh. I never told any novice to change anything about their car. FWIW, changing tire pressures drastically from stock will also have the same consequences as changing alignment settings.
You didn't provide any new or helpful information. For a stock car with weak sidewall, no grip tires, negative camber is a waste of my time. Thanks for the cool stories though.
 

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This is partially true. OEM eccentric crash bolts are allowed but you have to be careful on how much negative camber you dial in. I used to run Mustangs in FS and if you ran more than -2.1 degrees camber, with crash bolts, at a National event, you would be protested and DQ'd. You could always get more but you were not allowed to. I'm not saying neg camber does not help. It does. Running as much as you can does not fit the Street category, which was and is entirely my point. There are limitations.
Sigh. If you followed the FSM for removing the correct amount of material to install the crash bolts, you would have been legal. If installing crash bolts means making permanent modifications, it should be done by a qualified person who knows how to do it.

On the S197, doing this the correct way netted you about -1.1 to -1.3. You were only allowed to remove 1/16th of an inch per the FSM (and clearly indicated by a line on the strut housing). If you went just a tiny bit more than that, you'd have a BIG difference in camber. I vividly remember doing all of this on my brother's Brembo GT 2 seasons ago.

And usually, on MacPherson strut cars, running the maximum amount of camber allowed by factory adjustments is optimal in Street. Perhaps you missed the whole scuttlebutt 2 years ago when Stock went to Street, and people were pushing to open up camber allowances with the move to 200tw tires.
 

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moral of the story.... I autocrossed my 15 at a goodguys event in TX and it was really fun....Jeez folks.
I know it. All I tried to do was offer some easy to use advise to someone new to autocross without making it too technical and then that yahoo chimed in. Some people like to over think things.
 

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It happens. Most people get too excited about Autocross or HPDE. The best thing to do is get experienced with your stock setup, get approved to run solo, then start tinkering a couple parts at a time. This was the best advice I got from my HPDE instructors. It's always fun to hear a novice swear the new parts help him when it was truly just getting more experience witht he sensations of high performance driving.
 

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LMAO! In my region we're all super friendly and helpful. If we see somone in need of some help, we help. I really don't know why all of the pushback. I was just trying to talk AX and help out a fellow SS owner. Oh well, no more help from this yahoo. Continue turning in late. Lol
 

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This really was not an autocross, it was a timed event on a closed training course. The training course is located on the Academi training facility (formally Blackwater) located in Moyock, NC. The event was held by the Tidewater Sports Car Club. It is a 1.5 mile track, except for one turn all turns are off camber. Track condition poor with sand and water on the track also sharp drop off at the edges of the asphalt. This is how it is supposed to be because they are training for real world conditions, it was exciting to say the least in comp mode. My best time was 90 seconds to cover 1.5 miles and out of 49 contestants I just made the top ten considering there were some special built cars and muscle at the event.. All I can say is to echo what every other driver has said, "THIS CAR ROCKS." The last section before the timing cones I hit 83 mph and the Brembos were unbelievable in stopping power because you will see the braking area was very short before the cones. Enjoy!


In this picture you will see that I basically brought a knife to a gun fight with all the trailers hauling full race cars. The surprise was on them when they were beaten by a basically pure stock SS (CAI only). The guy with the AC Cobra kept spinning out. You cannot win if you can't keep it on the track.
However I did get a lot of comments and likes especially from the guy that said he liked the white color best of all the SS's he has seen. Couldn't agree more.
 

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That looks like it was fun!
It was a blast. The only problem with the SS is, it does not know how big it is. With the suspension and the 410 lt ft of torque it is really quick for a big old girl. Come out of a turn and stomp the throttle and she rockets you to the next turn and the brakes are the best. To answer your question, it is the most fun you can have with your clothes on!
 

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It was a blast. To answer your question, it is the most fun you can have with your clothes on!
At least you were wearing some this time. :angel

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