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The 2014 SS: Chevrolet Answers a Question, but Was Anybody Asking?

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Rick Hendrick, owner of Hendrick Motorsports, with the new Chevrolet SS street model after it and a racing version, back left, were unveiled at Daytona International Speedway on Saturday.

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. – Blame booming Chevrolet, which that has more new vehicles to introduce than it knows what to do with, that the all new 2014 Chevrolet SS rear-drive performance sedan was introduced to the public and the media in the infield of Daytona International Speedway hours before the Nascar version of the SS was to debut on track in the first race of the season, a preliminary to the Daytona 500.

Chevrolet, you will recall, had the new Corvette and Silverado truck line to promote at the Detroit auto show. At the Chicago auto show, it introduced the 2014 Cruze Turbo Diesel, the company’s first diesel-powered car in nearly 30 years. There is a full slate of introductions scheduled for the New York auto show, which starts March 29, including the first look in the United States at the next-generation Corvette convertible.

So Chevrolet packed up its top executives and shipped them to Daytona, where the SS – the company’s first rear-drive performance sedan since the 1996 departure of the Impala SS – was shown to enthusiastic Nascar fans surrounding a cordoned area in the Daytona fan zone infield.

The Nascar connection is important because 2013 marks the debut of all-new body styles for the Nascar Sprint Cup series. Over the last six years, Nascar had homogenized the looks of the Nascar Chevrolet Impala, Ford Fusion and Toyota Camry to the point where the only difference was head- and taillight decals. The manufacturers insisted on cars that looked more like their road-going counterparts – after all, Nascar and the manufacturers have long embraced the “Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday” mentality, and that was viable when the on-track cars were, or at least resembled, converted street cars.

So Chevrolet took the opportunity to change its Nascar racer from the front-drive Impala to the rear-drive, V-8-powered SS, and for 2013, Nascar allowed the three manufacturers enough design latitude to race cars that actually resemble the models they are ostensibly based on. These Gen 6 cars – or the sixth generation since Nascar started in 1949 – should bring some brand identity back to the sport.

The SS is the first Chevrolet to wear the SS, or Super Sport, name as its lone moniker, having for decades been paired with higher-performance models like the Impala SS and Camaro SS. The 2014 SS is a one-size-fits-all model, loaded with such standard equipment as leather upholstery, a nine-speaker Bose sound system, heads-up data display, a color touch-screen navigation system and parking assist, which has sensors that allow for hands-free parallel parking.

The engine is a 415-horsepower, 6.2-liter V-8, and the transmission is a six-speed automatic with TAPshift technology, meaning you can change gears using paddle switches on the steering wheel. Big Brembo disc brakes sit inside forged aluminum wheels. Tires are Bridgestone Potenzas – 245/40ZR-19 up front, 275/35ZR-19 in the rear. The weight, just under two tons, is lightened a bit by an aluminum hood and deck lid.

Inside, there is plenty of room for four 6-footers, with decent room for a fifth passenger. Instruments and controls are plain, but easy to read and access. Pedals are covered with drilled aluminum plates. The trunk is huge.

The price (as well as a presumably grim E.P.A. fuel-economy rating) has not been revealed, and won’t be until the fourth-quarter sales effort begins, but expect it to be about $45,000, a little more with a sunroof, the lone option.

Development of the SS has been largely under the radar, mostly because the car wasn’t developed in the United States. The SS is a product of Holden, G.M.’s Australian division. Whether American consumers care is mostly unknown: The list of Australian-built cars sold in the United States is short and not particularly distinguished. It includes the Mercury Capri roadster, which arrived in 1991 with the unenviable mission of taking on the red-hot Mazda Miata. Also, some Mitsubishi Diamantes came from Down Under.

In 2004, Pontiac revived the GTO, adapting the Holden Monaro as a $35,000 V-8-powered coupe that suffered slightly from jet lag: the position of the fuel tank, for instance, required that in order to pass American standards, Pontiac had to weld a partition in the trunk that cut cargo space in half. Improvements were made quickly, and the 2006 model was a very good car, but it came too late and production ended then.

Pontiac again turned to Holden in 2008, rebadging a Holden Commodore as a Pontiac G8 rear-drive sedan, with V-6 or V-8 power, and was planning to import a trucklike version similar to the Chevrolet El Camino, as well as a station wagon, when the Pontiac brand was shut down amid G.M.’s financial crisis. The 2009 G8s were the last.

The fact that General Motors in the United States has not forgotten its Australian affiliate can be traced directly to Mark Reuss, the G.M. president and a mechanical engineer. He served as Holden’s chairman and managing director in 2008 and 2009, and it was no coincidence that shortly after his return to the United States, it was revealed that Chevrolet would import a rear-drive dedicated police car from Australia called the Caprice PPV, for police patrol vehicle. While, like the SS, it’s a rear-drive sedan, Mr. Reuss stresses that the SS is not a civilian cop car, the way the last rear-drive Impala SS was – the SS and the considerably larger PPV are built on separate Holden platforms. But there’s no arguing that in terms of making a business case for importing cars from Holden, it made sense that the more cars you can load on the boat for America, the better.

All that said, Chevrolet is not looking at the SS as a major mass-market possibility, though the Holden factory can crank out as many as Chevrolet wants. Annual sales of 20,000 would be good, and 25,000 would be spectacular for what amounts to a niche, one-brand vehicle, since there are no plans for other American G.M. brands to share the SS.

“This is our flagship,” said Mr. Reuss, obviously proud. To be really proud, though, it needs to sell in the showrooms, and win on the track. The last part should be easy: Kevin Harvick won in his SS in the Sprint Unlimited Nascar race hours after the SS debut, and Danica Patrick qualified her SS on the pole for Sunday’s Daytona 500.

The 2014 SS: Chevrolet Answers a Question, but Was Anybody Asking? - NYTimes.com
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You wouldn't replace a Corvette with an SS. They simply attract two completely different buyers. As if someone interested in a Corvette would consider an SS and vice versa.

The CTS-V starts at 65k.

The Camaro is a two door!

The SS is a performance sedan for families or others that need the full size room offered at a moderate price point. You say you keep providing facts but you really have yet to post one.
OK. Here's some facts for ya that you obviously don't know:
The Camaro and the SS Sedan are basically the same car built on the same chassis.

You can buy a new CTS-V for $59k.

Don't even get me started on the other cars available, or the used car market......
the Question I think you need to ask is Why would you replace your Vette with an SS you'd be nuts to. It's a Sports car.
The CTS is obvious it's not a Chevrolet and in a different league so I wouldn't replace that either.
And the Camaro is a look at me extrovert with personality becoming a Retro Muscle car.
If you don't like the SS because of no
AWD it was never devoleped for the chassis due to main market not being cold enough or wet enough for it ( And GM NA taking a large chunk of Zeta Commodore development money to finish the Full size truck program from the mid 2000's. and it sucks all the power and increases fuel consumption.
The VZ Adventra V8 was a very thirsty AWD.

AWD and DCT were never going to be considered for VF due to the high cost of development and the shrinking target core demographic for this type of vehicle. Had the GFC not occured things may have been very different.
OK. Here's some facts for ya that you obviously don't know:
The Camaro and the SS Sedan are basically the same car built on the same chassis.

Dude, I've had a G8 for last four years, you don't think I know it shares the same chassis? Same suspension? Most parts are easily swapped back and forth between the two. How is it that you come to yet another assumption that I don't know that. Its still a two-door! Sersiously, even if you didn't know I had a G8 or that I was a car enthusiast (as mentioned in previous posts) what did I say that led you to think it was "obvious" that I didn't know that? Your logic and reasoning is sooo f'd.



You can buy a new CTS-V for $59k.

Don't even get me started on the other cars available, or the used car market......
Even at 59k the cts-v is still close to 30% higher than what the SS will likely be offered at. Thats a huge jump. Different buyers.
If you don't agree with me, then what does the SS Sedan offer that answers the following questions:


Why should I replace my Corvette with the SS, or add the SS to my garage?

Why should I replace my CTS-V with the SS, or add the SS to my garage?

Why should I replace my Camaro with the Chevy SS, or add the SS to my garage?
The Chevy SS is not targeted to replace a Corvette, CTS-V, or Camaro. Adding one to your garage is a personal choice based on vehicle needs. If the SS does not meet your vehicle needs i.e. AWD then why bother with the discussion? You are obviously not an intended customer or in the target market for the SS. GM isn't going to invest heavily in a V8 powered RWD drive that won't continue in its current form after 2016 due to CAFE requirements. It would be great if GM did things like they did in the 60's and offer every iteration and option possible; I think we all kind of know what happened to that company. I'm not claiming to be an expert but I am retired GM and have owned well over 100 of some of the best GM has offered including the mentioned G8's, Camaro's and GTO's build on the Holden chassis. I understand the platform and understand why GM is offering this product for 2014. I don't like but fully understand why after 2016 V8 cars begin to fade in the product line up. It's obvious the Chevy SS represents a compromise for you and as mentioned you're probably not in the target market.
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The fact remains that the questions posted above can't be answered because the SS Sedan offers NOTHING new and no feature added benefit to the existing market.
The fact remains that the questions posted above can't be answered because the SS Sedan offers NOTHING new and no feature added benefit to the existing market.
Fact according to you and opinion to most other folks. As a former GM employee my apologies for not satisfying your car aspirations and demands. I understand GM using their limited research and development budgets for more mainstream and volume products, High performance clutches and AWD systems are simply not in scope for the Holden based chassis. The reality is GM simply cannot satisfy your demand for product and that's why there are competitive products i.e. Infinity that are more to your liking. I'm sure GM and your local dealers appreciate your patronage and hope to serve you again in the future...
C'mon man.
With all due respect, no one is buying the bull$hit you, or GM, is trying to spin.

Freaking MITSUBISHI offers a combo of AWD and DCT on their ENTRY LEVEL CARS.
So does VW.
Even DODGE offers a AWD version of their V8 Charger.
There is NO EXCUSE.

GM is failing by not offering AWD and DCT as OPTIONS and GM needs to get their heads out of their ass.
The SRT-8 Charger is not offered in AWD. The SS is between the Hemi and the SRT-8 power wise.

I personally do not want AWD - more weight and complexity for a couple days a year.

I would like to see the SS offered with all season tires though.
All I can hope is we agree to disagree; you aren't going to get me to your side and obviously you're not moving my way. I put my G8 GT, powertrain slightly modified... :), through a couple of winters on snow tires in Michigan. There wasn't a time I ever found the need to have AWD. That said I have an AWD Denali now and guess what, I really don't need AWD here in Michigan.

GM hasn't done well with niche products (XLR, Fiero, SSR's, etc.) in the past and my personal definition of a Chevy SS AWD DCT would be a niche product. Not something that would have mass product appeal in order to support the development costs. I've been in the automobile industry since 1977 and worked the manufacturing, assembly, and product development side of the business. Regardless of how badly you want DCT, AWD, and any other enhancement to a particular product line it just isn't going to happen unless the demand is there on the other side to justify the expense. It's obvious GM does not see the upside regardless of how many cars you have in your garage with a GM badge. This is a scenario where you simply will have to "get over it" in the view of GM. They can't be all things to all people regardless of what Mitsu, Subaru, Porsche or any other automaker engineer into their products. Even if the technology is commonly available it still requires lengthy and costly development time. There has to be a pay back.... There isn't one with DCT and AWD in this platform. Does it bother me GM cannot offer an M6 transmission in the Chevy SS especially after owning a G8 GXP M6? Certainly it does but I'm doubtful it will stop me from buying an SS.

Again, I'm not in agreement with your position or thinking and that's what is great about forums like this. My opinion doesn't have to equal yours. I do speak from an educated position relative to what automakers can and cannot do within specific product lines. GM obviously decided something as simple as an M6 version of the SS doesn't make sense for 2014; I'm hopeful for 2015.

You get the significant privilege of voting with your wallet; if you don't agree with what GM brings to market you will go elsewhere. Complaining here and taking a hardened position with what is right and wrong with GM is simply your opinion and god bless you for that but you may not be right... at least from an automotive marketing perspective.
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I really don't need AWD here in Michigan.
According to that logic, no one "needs" 400hp either.
Does it bother me GM cannot offer an M6 transmission in the Chevy SS especially after owning a G8 GXP M6? Certainly it does but I'm doubtful it will stop me from buying an SS.
You get the significant privilege of voting with your wallet; if you don't agree with what GM brings to market you will go elsewhere.
Agreed.:)
You should follow your own advice and not buy a SS Sedan since you KNOW it's ridiculous they are not offering the manual that you, and everyone else, wants.:)

As much as I NEED AWD to buy a new sedan, and as much as I WANT DCT to buy a new sports car, I would probably buy a SS Sedan with RWD if it was a manual and IF IT WAS PRICED RIGHT.

With the LS3 instead of the LT1, without DCT or a pedal activated clutch, and without AWD, GM is going to be unpleasantly surprised when they see how low they are going to have to lower prices to move these cars once the blindly loyal GM buyers have bought theirs.

PS:
I appreciate your professional opinion and posts.
I wouldn't call it ridiculous on the M6; short sighted, stingy, cheap, and I can think of other descriptions. Bottom line though is rather than calibrate the M6 in time for the 2014 model year they chose (my educated guess) to spend those engineering resources elsewhere like diesel Chevy Cruises and 4 cylinder Cadillac ATS sedans. I'm good with the diesel, not crazy about a 200 HP ATS but understand GM needs to keep high mileage products deep into the portfolio in order to make guys like you and me happy with high performance V8's. I'd love to see an 8 speed automatic sitting behind the LS3 or even better the LT1 engine but that would take precious engineering resources aimed at supporting a low volume car. I may not like it but GM has priorities much different today than during the horsepower wars of the late 60's and certainly after going through a very public bankruptcy needs to keep up a good corporate face.

It may be a compromise but I'd rather have an A6 415 horse SS over a 318 horse 3.6L V6 any day of the week.
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I'd love to see an 8 speed automatic sitting behind the LS3 or even better the LT1 engine but that would take precious engineering resources aimed at supporting a low volume car.
True.
But, is it really a low volume car?
Isn't it a high volume global car (platform) that's sold all over the world as the Camaro, the Caprice, the Holden XXXXXX, etc ?????


I'm sorry. It's very hard to believe that Nissan can do an Infiniti G Coupe/Sedan with RWD/AWD and mutliple transmissions/engines and GM can't do the same thing with the SS Sedan.
It's very hard to believe lowly, little MISTUBISHI can be offering a AWD/DCT in an entry level car since 2008, and GM can't do the same thing with the SS Sedan.

I am man enough to admit that I do not have access to all of the data, but sometimes you have to boil it down to the basic argument that if Mistu and Infiniti can do it, GM can as well.

I am a FIRM believer that if GM offered an V8 sedan with all wheel drive, people would buy it in numbers, and pay a premium.
Maybe you should work for GM.

I think a AWD dual clutch V8 sedan would be awesome. Not sure if I would be able to afford it, but it's still awesome.
The SS Chevy in its "as designed" form for the US market would be considered low volume. And I believe it is not that GM can't do this; they simply choose to deploy engineering and testing expense elsewhere. They are capable of doing it but everything has to go through a business review process and if they don't see a return it simply isn't done. I can't disagree; AWD, DCT, Hybrid powertrains, and Magnetic suspension (found in C6/C7 Corvette and ZL1 Camaro) all can be done but GM must not see the return on investment.
The SS Chevy in its "as designed" form for the US market would be considered low volume. And I believe it is not that GM can't do this; they simply choose to deploy engineering and testing expense elsewhere. They are capable of doing it but everything has to go through a business review process and if they don't see a return it simply isn't done. I can't disagree; AWD, DCT, Hybrid powertrains, and Magnetic suspension (found in C6/C7 Corvette and ZL1 Camaro) all can be done but GM must not see the return on investment.
If GM can't see ROI on an AWD V8 Sedan, they maybe I should give my buddies in Detroit a call and update my resume.....

They can.
The CHOOSE not to.
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