[SSS]

It wont happen now, obviously. BUT IF the SS makes another production run and moves production stateside GM could be looking to expand the platform. Read an article on AutoNews this morning claiming GM is looking to have 500,000 vehicles rolling off the production line annually as EVs or Hybrids.

GM could explore the performance Hybrid route using electric motors to augment power from a downsized engine... Already the Spark EV produces more torque than a Ferrari 458, they could make the SS hybrid a real weapon...

 

[Don't Call Me Surely]

I don't see GM moving production away from Australia. And I doubt they would invest the money into a model that is not meant to be mass produced to create a hybrid or EV version. We don't even know if the SS is going to get any more than the 2,000 (or maybe 900) units that are currently planned.

It's not in the cards in my opinion.

 

[z51vett]

If SS is a success it will be brought to the states and put on the stretched wheel base of the ATS sedan so I've read. Then Ik rider can have his stick and cake too.
I like manuals also but I don't beat everybody up about it oh I do like v8's. According to 1K Camaro and SS are the same well if you don't want four door and Camaro pricing buy a Camaro they are six speed and you can get a cheap six in it can you say Cady six. Or wait till the new 2015 Camaro comes out redone if you don't like the current one.
z51vett
Doug:smile:

 

[Asylum]

There was a private firm that made a few all electric VE's last year in Australia. The concept apparently worked well but there wasn't the funding to follow through

 

[chevypwr]

If there's anything different I want to see in the next generation SS, it's a hybrid setup. Electric power for city driving speeds and a combination of electric and petrol engine power for when we DEMAND power, and of course a 6-speed or DCT transmission.

BUT knowing GM, they will rather use that idea for Cadillac and eventually trickle it down to cars like the SS.

 

[brianch]

kidding.

if they kept the V8 sure

V8 mated to a powerful hybrid motor? Sure why not

Think of all that torque at 1rpm.

 

[alcatraz]

Hybrid SS? I'm not holding my breath. I have to wait to see how the first round of the SS does before I have a prediction. I think there would be an interest in it, but like the gas powered SS, it might be that the demand is strong but only has a limited audience.

 

[SSS]

I don't see GM moving production away from Australia. And I doubt they would invest the money into a model that is not meant to be mass produced to create a hybrid or EV version. We don't even know if the SS is going to get any more than the 2,000 (or maybe 900) units that are currently planned.

It's not in the cards in my opinion.

like others have mentioned, it is in the cards to move SS production stateside and have it sharing architecture with ATS, Camaro and CTS (dont quote me on CTS)

GM could do the SS up as a performance Hybrid. dont knock the concept more than half the cars running LMP1 at Le Mans use a form of Hybrid tech. Even KERS in F1 is a variation of Hybrid tech.

GM could do a performance Hybrid with electric engines only providing low end power and i mean POWER, and then giving a little shot of juice when you hammer it on the down shift to pass or whatever.

Infiniti has a system like this in the Q50, the new NSX is going to show up with electrics in the wheels coupled to a V6. Might even axe the gas guzzler tax.

 

[Commodoreman2000]

There was a private firm that made a few all electric VE's last year in Australia. The concept apparently worked well but there wasn't the funding to follow through

EV engineering was that firm. I know they have been working with another Victorian mob who have been developing smaller, lighter and more powerfull whilst being more efficient in battery use. I think they were projecting doubling the battery range to well over 200 km per charge and also redsuced charging times.

Everything they have developed could theoretically be integrated into the production line.

I think assuming Commodore stays RWD post VF that Hybrid drivetrains will be crucial in keeping it relevant.

 

[Commodoreman2000]

kidding.

if they kept the V8 sure

V8 mated to a powerful hybrid motor? Sure why not

Think of all that torque at 1rpm.

Unrelated to the SS, I have read over on GMI today about a future Corvette possbly stuffing a 4.5 litre turbo charged V8 under the hood that will be shared with the Cadillac flagship sedan around 2016

 

[Commodoreman2000]

like others have mentioned, it is in the cards to move SS production stateside and have it sharing architecture with ATS, Camaro and CTS (dont quote me on CTS)

GM could do the SS up as a performance Hybrid. dont knock the concept more than half the cars running LMP1 at Le Mans use a form of Hybrid tech. Even KERS in F1 is a variation of Hybrid tech.

GM could do a performance Hybrid with electric engines only providing low end power and i mean POWER, and then giving a little shot of juice when you hammer it on the down shift to pass or whatever.

Infiniti has a system like this in the Q50, the new NSX is going to show up with electrics in the wheels coupled to a V6. Might even axe the gas guzzler tax.

I don't recall where that rumor started however Mark Ruess and Mike Deveraux are on record that Post VF that the SS sedan (assuming it is still popular enough) would continue being built at Elizabeth ( assuming GM keep the plant open) on a 3rd line alongside PPV, Ute and other V8 variants of Zeta.

Article source at Link: http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-news/holden_ss_will_live_beyond_commodore

The death sentence for the Holden Commodore could be commuted in 2016 for the SS hero car.
Plans are being hatched for the SS V8 to live on beyond the lifespan of the upcoming VF Commodore, which now is just around the corner, provided that performance-car fans in the USA and Australia are still prepared to pay.
Related HOLDEN
Holden admits it could continue with a low-volume VF SS on its production line in Adelaide after the cut-off date for the current Commodore, which is set to be replaced by an international model with local tweaking.
That would mean three models in the same factory, with the compact Cruze running alongside the SS and the new car. "We are considering all options going forward but won't discuss specifics at this stage," the chairman of Holden, Mike Devereux, admits to Carsguide this week.
But one of his predecessors as Holden boss, Mark Reuss, believes a long-term SS is possible if export demand for the car is as strong as expected in the USA. Reuss led the push to take the SS to America as a Chevrolet - as well as Chevy's NASCAR racing spearhead - and also knows what is possible at the Holden factory in Elizabeth.
"We can sell this for as long as we can make it and sell it," Reuss, who know heads General Motors in the USA, says of the rear-wheel drive muscle car. He is a long-term fan of the Commodore SS and knows the pulling power it has in Australia, as well as its potential to bring buyers to Chevrolet dealerships in the USA.
"What if we have a really cool, loyal buyer base? What if we had that? What if it becomes the reason to go into a Chevrolet dealership?", Reuss says.
"What if we say we're not going to do it any more and there is an uproar saying that we want these? What if that happens, what would you do?"
The decision for an ongoing SS does not have to be made for some time, probaby not until 2015, but Reuss is already keen to find a way to keep the Commodore going. "I think that is a pretty good idea," he says.
"You need another body shop to keep it going, so what? There are two body shops in a place people said we could only have one, they said we couldn't do it but we did do it.
"It is paid for, it's all there."

 

[SSS]

I don't recall where that rumor started however Mark Ruess and Mike Deveraux are on record that Post VF that the SS sedan (assuming it is still popular enough) would continue being built at Elizabeth ( assuming GM keep the plant open) on a 3rd line alongside PPV, Ute and other V8 variants of Zeta.

Article source at Link: Holden SS will live beyond Commodore | carsguide.com.au

Yes thats all well and good but its contingent on SS staying on Zeta. If, and its likely, the SS goes Alpha whats the point in producing it halfway around the world when they will have alpha plants cranking cars out. It would make more sense for SS to share an assembly line with the Camaro if riding on Alpha.

 

[Commodoreman2000]

Its all a wait and see for now. The way things seem to be going Holden may stop manufacturing in 3 or so years. I will probably actually cry then punch something. I should probably punch something first to use that as a cover for crying

 

[brianch]

Unrelated to the SS, I have read over on GMI today about a future Corvette possbly stuffing a 4.5 litre turbo charged V8 under the hood that will be shared with the Cadillac flagship sedan around 2016

sure why not. turbochargers are always welcome.

because its awesome when a 150$ tune can bring an extra 100hp in boosted cars

:3tens:

 

[Big Block Meister]

turbos are making a serious comeback. everyone is considering a turbo somewhere in their line up. It would be awesome if that ends up happening regarless of a small v8 this one will thump.