You realize only the US gets a manual BMW now right? All other countries (even Germany) are auto in some form (whether DCT or otherwise).The SS Sedan will never be called a "budget BWM" until it gets a manual transmission.
I would choose a SS Sedan over a 335i if both had torque converters.
But, the 335is with DCT is the obvious choice over a SS Sedan unfortunately.
Agreed, the MCT in the E63 is inferior to DCT.
But, even with the MCT, the 2014+ E63 is the king of sports sedans, especially after a dyno tune. No sedan on the road will touch it after only a turbo swap.
The 2015 C63 gets a DCT with a twin turbo V8 and awd.
I have a strong suspicion the 2015 C63 it's going to be a game changer.
Let's hope GM steps up with the ATS-V and Camaro.
September Sport Sedan Comparo in MT
So, in MT this month, they did a Sport Sedan comparison between:
- Lexus IS 350 AWD
- Audi S4
- Volvo S60 T6
- BMW 335i xDrive
- Cadillac ATS4 3.6
The BMW won but who cares.
I keep looking at this issue and comparison over and over saying to myself, "I can't wait to see how the Car Magazines will rate/rank the SS against all of these other Sport Sedans. Will they be harsh, will they be fair, will they be lukewarm???"
What do you guys think? How will it be received once they start driving it and testing it? Will it just get pushed aside or will it be taken seriously?
Look forward to your comments.
- Lexus IS 350 AWD
- Audi S4
- Volvo S60 T6
- BMW 335i xDrive
- Cadillac ATS4 3.6
The BMW won but who cares.
I keep looking at this issue and comparison over and over saying to myself, "I can't wait to see how the Car Magazines will rate/rank the SS against all of these other Sport Sedans. Will they be harsh, will they be fair, will they be lukewarm???"
What do you guys think? How will it be received once they start driving it and testing it? Will it just get pushed aside or will it be taken seriously?
Look forward to your comments.
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CLA is also MUCH MUCH smaller than the SS. There's your economy right there.
Don't forget, the CLA is really an A series Merc.
Don't forget, the CLA is really an A series Merc.
And those owners that have faced similarly modded GM LS vehicles (even with the "shitty" 6L80E or 6L90E) have found out what us GM loyalists are on about.Since Nissan lowered the RPMs of the GTR's launch control, it's been bulletproof.
I agree about the questionable reliability of the Germans, that's why I am paranoid about owning one, especially out of warranty. GM's combination of performance, reliability, and low cost has always made their V8/manual transmission care my choice,
But, when you remove the low cost, and a manual, trans, the imports start looking very good, ex specially with turbos, awd, and dct.
Anyone who has driven dct, or faced a modded GTR, 911, or AMG turbo car knows exactly what I'm talking about.
You're on a forum dedicated to a new GM vehicle being imported from Australia to the US. If you don't like the fact that we like the SS, you can go elsewhere just as much as you have told us to.
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