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Great answer !!!!

The 3 R's are not nonsense.

Neither are the basics; because if you don't have the basic knowledge how you gonna survive???

I find it sad that today's kids can't read let alone understand the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. Oh; another thing that is coming back that was cut in Common Core ... history and Social Studies !!!!
The fact old people call reading, writing and arithmetic the 3 R's doesn't speak well to how things were taught back then.

Also rather amusing millennials are doing a better job saving for retirement than boomers did by most measurements.

Boomers - "Millennials are so ignorant for supporting socialism and single payer healthcare" *said whilst collecting Social Security and having Medicare pay their health bills.


Did I stir the pot enough? Us Gen X'ers like watching you two cohorts bitch at each other :)
 

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The fact old people call reading, writing and arithmetic the 3 R's doesn't speak well to how things were taught back then.

Also rather amusing millennials are doing a better job saving for retirement than boomers did by most measurements.

Boomers - "Millennials are so ignorant for supporting socialism and single payer healthcare" *said whilst collecting Social Security and having Medicare pay their health bills.


Did I stir the pot enough? Us Gen X'ers like watching you two cohorts bitch at each other :)
LOL pick a side you self-aware gen X'er ;)
 

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Look, my position formally is that as soon as someone believes that they "know enough", is the day their advice starts becoming less meaningful.

Stay fallible, keep learning, be relevant.
 

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Gotta have discipline to have order. Lose that, and you lose control. I don't care that some studies have shown long-lasting effects in kids that were spanked or paddled. Plenty of studies also show equally bad effects for kids that didn't have any discipline. Some kids are fine with sitting in timeout while others simply need a whooping.

In school, you didn't need to paddle many kids. Just seeing the class bully/a-hole come back from the front office crying was enough to set most people straight. Teachers have a hard enough time without unruly students. I can't imagine how much worse it is nowadays when teachers have no power to enforce rules.

Many kids are raised now without understanding consequences to their actions. I don't get it. How are you preparing a kid for the real world?? You do dumb stuff as an adult, you get fired, imprisoned, etc. Then again, I shouldn't be allowed an opinion on consequences since I still support the eye-for-an-eye mentality or worse. Steal something, chop off a hand. Rape someone, chop off something else. Kill someone, public hanging... This whole sitting in prison thing, with air conditioning and cable doesn't do it for me, and it certainly doesn't dissuade anyone from doing what they're doing.

Gen-Xer here, raising a young kid.
 

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Gotta have discipline to have order. Lose that, and you lose control. I don't care that some studies have shown long-lasting effects in kids that were spanked or paddled. Plenty of studies also show equally bad effects for kids that didn't have any discipline. Some kids are fine with sitting in timeout while others simply need a whooping.

In school, you didn't need to paddle many kids. Just seeing the class bully/a-hole come back from the front office crying was enough to set most people straight. Teachers have a hard enough time without unruly students. I can't imagine how much worse it is nowadays when teachers have no power to enforce rules.

Many kids are raised now without understanding consequences to their actions. I don't get it. How are you preparing a kid for the real world?? You do dumb stuff as an adult, you get fired, imprisoned, etc. Then again, I shouldn't be allowed an opinion on consequences since I still support the eye-for-an-eye mentality or worse. Steal something, chop off a hand. Rape someone, chop off something else. Kill someone, public hanging... This whole sitting in prison thing, with air conditioning and cable doesn't do it for me, and it certainly doesn't dissuade anyone from doing what they're doing.

Gen-Xer here, raising a young kid.
YOU HAVE DONE IT SIR!!!

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Gen-Xer here, raising a young kid.
Father to father, i'm sure we both realize that what works for one kid doesn't for another.

You gotta use the right tool for the job. It's why my millennial generation gets frustrated when boomers swear by using a hammer to solve a problem when in some circumstances a screwdriver is better. And then says things like "things would be better if we all went back to hammers, screw these kids and these days and their screw drivers" (to be clear i'm no longer talking kids discipline here). The hammer still has a place, but its not a panacea to every problem, there are lots of different fasteners these days. Not sure if this metaphor working.
 

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Things were great AND $hitty then, and they are great AND $hitty now. This thread reads a bit like a bunch of grumpy old men rattling over eggs and bacon, only thing missing is stories of prostates and catheters.
I am not belittling the serious issues facing us, but things "back then" were nowhere near as pretty as our dimming nostalgic eyes are trying to paint them.
There sure were $hitty things back then, as there are now, but how many school mass shootings were there ? I remember Kent state, but that was the National Guard shooting at protesting students, may have been others but I don't remember them. The tragedy of 911, more lives lost than Pearl Harbor. The opioid crisis is a BIG problem, wasn't an issue when I was a kid, we just had alcohol, and tobacco to kill ourselves with.

To me, problems now are a larger scale than one could have imagined, and it overwhelms me sometimes....

By the way I can start another thread on prostate issues if you want....:p

Bottom line, I love my fellow man, and wish the best for all of us, and hope we can pursue happiness the best we can.
 
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