[BowtieDriver]

New supercharged Vauxhall VXR8 to be built in US | Autocar

According to this article the SS successor will be built in the USA and exported to Oz as a Commodore and Europe as the VXR8. IF this is true then the future of the SS is secured......or this just bunch of BS.

 

[jdurhan]

If you add up the SS, Vauxhall, Commodore and the Police PPV sales it could make a business case to build here or in Ontario. JMO

 

[Z06vett]

What a Canadian Dealer said to me

Yesterday while having a Panera breakfast with a group of car guys one of the them happens to mention that the day before he saw a Car that his dealer friend had not seen before. It happens it was my SS and the dealer is one from Canada that comes from the town in Canada where one of the Cadillac's is built.

While talking to my friend the Chevy dealer comes in and we speak about my SS. He tells me that from some internal GM news letter or some other info he is sure the 2016 SS will be built in Canada in the same plant as the Caddy. He was quite sure this was going to happen, but so does BS.

David

 

[BowtieDriver]

Yesterday while having a Panera breakfast with a group of car guys one of the them happens to mention that the day before he saw a Car that his dealer friend had not seen before. It happens it was my SS and the dealer is one from Canada that comes from the town in Canada where one of the Cadillac's is built.

While talking to my friend the Chevy dealer comes in and we speak about my SS. He tells me that from some internal GM news letter or some other info he is sure the 2016 SS will be built in Canada in the same plant as the Caddy. He was quite sure this was going to happen, but so does BS.

David

The question is on WHAT platform? It would have to be Alpha wouldn't it?

 

[PFWiz]

The XTS is built in Oshawa Canada. If they were going to build the SS and clones here, Oshawa would be my first guess.
Having said that GM is incapable of spec'ing, ordering, building and debugging an entirely new line in < 1.5 years from a standing start. Believe me, that is what I do for a living....

 

[Z06vett]

Start up time

I agree, need at least 3 years to get it going.

 

[BowtieDriver]

I agree, need at least 3 years to get it going.

It kind of makes you wonder how long these plans have been in the internal pipeline.

 

[isszy]

I hope they have not included the current sales level of Commodores in their projections. One of the major selling points of the Commodore is that it is "Australia's Own" and once the car is no longer built here, sales figures will plummet.

There are two reasons for this - one is that people like me who loved Holden as an Australian icon won't buy one, and the other is that all of the government institutions that currently have 'Buy Australian" policies won't be forced into a Holden.

I will buy a VF Commodore before the last one rolls off the line, but it is likely that it will be my last GM car.

 

[z51vett]

If it's on an alpha/cts platform why so long the Camaro is coming to USA on alph for 15 and the SS is alpha/cts based why 3 years or 1.5 years
z51vett
Doug

 

[monaroCountry]

It kind of makes you wonder how long these plans have been in the internal pipeline.

Lets put it this way, GM planned for Holden to naturally die a very long time ago. There is why quite a few GM documents that do not even have Holden in their strategic planning. GM had a view of going full import for Australia after Mitsubishi shut down and the lack of backlash from the Australian public.

Quite a few detractors from this idea were pushed out, including the then Holden General Manager Peter Hanenberger. Denny Mooney was then installed as Holden GM, he pretty much stopped Holden export to the middle east, stopped a more than a few Commodore variants, and made Holden follow the corporate GM (car, face, policy etc). A few more top Holden managers left because of the changes inclding a very senior gentleman who was escorted out the building by security.

 

[monaroCountry]

If it's on an alpha/cts platform why so long the Camaro is coming to USA on alph for 15 and the SS is alpha/cts based why 3 years or 1.5 years
z51vett
Doug

More likely that the Commodore wont get made and that affordable RWD akin to the SS/Commdorore wont see the light of day.

The Alpha platform is not as well packaged, smaller, and quite a bit more expensive. Caddy also wont like it since it would be stealing sales and stepping on Caddy's toes. Its pretty much a waste of money offering an Alpha Caddy and an Alpha Chevy. More likely it will be built off a FWD some other frankenstine platform.


With that time frame, not a chance in ****. The commodore has around 50% Aussie sourced components, those component makers will probably follow Holden manufacturing and shut up shop.

Your best bet would be to look at a current GM platform (not Alpha or Omega) and see an Americanised body on it.

 

[2074]

While talking to my friend the Chevy dealer comes in and we speak about my SS. He tells me that from some internal GM news letter or some other info he is sure the 2016 SS will be built in Canada in the same plant as the Caddy.

No.

 

[PFWiz]

I will ask a friend today if any equipment has been ordered for a new line in Oshawa or anywhere else for a new SS. My friend is the lead salesman for a company that won GM's global bid for a certain type of equipment. Without his company's equipment they will not be building anything.
Basically if he tells me that no equipment is on order then it just ain't gonna happen soon...

 

[PFWiz]

Just talked to my buddy. I learned several things.

GM has nothing forcasted through 2017 that sounds remotely like the Commodore or SS.
Oshawa car is in a scary place right now. Oshawa truck is allready shut down and they have no current product for which they are lead plant.
New Camero production will be at the Lansing / Grand River plant.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.....

 

[z51vett]

Just talked to my buddy. I learned several things.

GM has nothing forcasted through 2017 that sounds remotely like the Commodore or SS.
Oshawa car is in a scary place right now. Oshawa truck is allready shut down and they have no current product for which they are lead plant.
New Camero production will be at the Lansing / Grand River plant.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.....

Okay SS thru 2017 model Camaro and SS share a platform now so how hard is it to take a alpha cts and make an SS they need the body in white cheaper than caddys
z51vett
Doug

 

[BowtieDriver]

Just talked to my buddy. I learned several things.

GM has nothing forcasted through 2017 that sounds remotely like the Commodore or SS.
Oshawa car is in a scary place right now. Oshawa truck is allready shut down and they have no current product for which they are lead plant.
New Camero production will be at the Lansing / Grand River plant.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.....

Well it sounds at least that there is some kind of discussion going on about what to do about a SS successor. I hate the rumor mill with a passion right about now. Tracking the suppliers are the best way to separate fact from fiction.

I just want a 4 door RWD V8 or turbo V6 made by GM that I don't have to pay Cadillac money for. Is that too much to ask for?

 

[Slizzo]

Okay SS thru 2017 model Camaro and SS share a platform now so how hard is it to take a alpha cts and make an SS they need the body in white cheaper than caddys
z51vett
Doug

Welllll, sort of. As we know the SS is a VF Commodore. Camaro is currently based off of a modified VE platform. They don't share many common parts, and since Camaro is being built until the end of it's generation run at Oshawa it'll stay there.

Camaro as we know will move to Alpha after 5th gen ends. Chevy has said they're interested in an Alpha based sedan, we'll see if this comes to a new SS, or if they're eyeing it only for a Caprice replacement.

True question is what is GM going to do about the Caprice? Now that Holden's manufacturing is shutting down are they going to move it to the US? Police departments have been buying up the Caprice at a pretty good rate.

 

[z51vett]

Well I guess I will buy the last year of the AU SS and keep it forever then
z51vett
Doug

 

[Headrat]

I just read the latest edition of motorauthority.com. Apparently HSV is discussing working with GM products here in the USA. Read it yourself!!!! This looks good!!!!

 

[Headrat]

http://http://www.motorauthority.co...es-chevy-models-mulls-u-s-expansion#src=10065
Here's the link to the article on Motor Authority.