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So finally got my shocks but it’s raining. Been reading about that EPS recall horrors and really don’t want to get it done. My car tracks straight and tires are wearing well. What is exactly the issue with it so I can possibly avoid it all together? Don’t want to bring it to a dealer because the last one did the balancer replacement and never replaced the original bolt and reused it. I only noticed this when I removed it for the lsa one and it took no torque at all. The balancer didn’t even rotate backwards when I turned it loose! For a reference the fuel rail and manifold bolts took more effort to loosen than the balancer bolt.

from what I gathered it seems that the harness and connector are made form different materials like one isn’t gold plated. Couldn’t this just be stuffed with a dielectric grease? If this isn’t the case lmk.
You just lose steering with no warning. The resulting steering is very heavy (much heavier than most manual steering vehicles of automotive past) and needs some serious manhandling. I lost mine a few times before the recall and had mine replaced under warranty (not recall). Serious pucker factor when you're in a corner and lose it. I'm ~200lbs with good upper body strength and very fast reflexes and about lifted myself out of the seat leaning on the steering wheel to keep it out of a divider wall on a corner in the highway when it went out. Low speeds like turning into a parking lot, or onto a road would definitely send you into the oncoming lane or off the road if the timing of the steering failure is bad.

They tried the grease thing but still had failures, so it seems the replacement is the best option. I've got a good dealer, so not a big concern on my end there.

Disclaimer: I'm on wider, stickier tires that stick out a bit farther than stock, so that might've impacted steering effort a bit.
 

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You just lose steering with no warning. The resulting steering is very heavy (much heavier than most manual steering vehicles of automotive past) and needs some serious manhandling. I lost mine a few times before the recall and had mine replaced under warranty (not recall). Serious pucker factor when you're in a corner and lose it. I'm ~200lbs with good upper body strength and very fast reflexes and about lifted myself out of the seat leaning on the steering wheel to keep it out of a divider wall on a corner in the highway when it went out. Low speeds like turning into a parking lot, or onto a road would definitely send you into the oncoming lane or off the road if the timing of the steering failure is bad.

They tried the grease thing but still had failures, so it seems the replacement is the best option. I've got a good dealer, so not a big concern on my end there.

Disclaimer: I'm on wider, stickier tires that stick out a bit farther than stock, so that might've impacted steering effort a bit.
I understand what happens but not the cause. Does the ecm lose communication with the pscm due to poor connection from the different materials? Does the rack itself just lose power?

I can’t get a straight answer from anyone on the island who has done this at a reputable dealer. So no way in hell will I be bringing it back to the place I bought it and don’t want to guess and it could be a worse one.
 

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You just lose steering with no warning. The resulting steering is very heavy (much heavier than most manual steering vehicles of automotive past) and needs some serious manhandling. I lost mine a few times before the recall and had mine replaced under warranty (not recall). Serious pucker factor when you're in a corner and lose it. I'm ~200lbs with good upper body strength and very fast reflexes and about lifted myself out of the seat leaning on the steering wheel to keep it out of a divider wall on a corner in the highway when it went out. Low speeds like turning into a parking lot, or onto a road would definitely send you into the oncoming lane or off the road if the timing of the steering failure is bad.

They tried the grease thing but still had failures, so it seems the replacement is the best option. I've got a good dealer, so not a big concern on my end there.

Disclaimer: I'm on wider, stickier tires that stick out a bit farther than stock, so that might've impacted steering effort a bit.
I second that emotion. **** sucks when it happens
 
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I understand what happens but not the cause. Does the ecm lose communication with the pscm due to poor connection from the different materials? Does the rack itself just lose power?

I can’t get a straight answer from anyone on the island who has done this at a reputable dealer. So no way in hell will I be bringing it back to the place I bought it and don’t want to guess and it could be a worse one.
It's been a few years now so the memory isn't sharp, but it seems to me that the connector involved was clearly identified (and nyogel grease was even applied as an attempted fix) of the two connectors on the unit. If that connector is the one that links the EPS to the PCM, then that should be your answer. (As opposed to if it is the other connector which links the electronics on the rack with the motor drive on the rack).

Having experienced the failure symptom quite often myself, I can tell you that the PCM apparently knows about the failure before it shuts down the rack, because the message always popped up first and then the steering got hard. Given the criticality of steering position info in the steering system, it only takes the slightest loss of real-time position tracking to trigger a no-confidence response and subsequent shutdown.
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I understand what happens but not the cause. Does the ecm lose communication with the pscm due to poor connection from the different materials? Does the rack itself just lose power?

I can’t get a straight answer from anyone on the island who has done this at a reputable dealer. So no way in hell will I be bringing it back to the place I bought it and don’t want to guess and it could be a worse one.
If I recall, @good2go nailed it. The sensor that notes the position of the steering rack loses signal, or has an intermittent signal which trips the computer to shutting down steering. It doesn't sound like it's a matter of a good contact being made, but the actual fault has been kept quiet (likely due to liability). Either way, it pisses me off that such an important system doesn't have a better redundancy or failsafe mode.
 

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If I recall, @good2go nailed it. The sensor that notes the position of the steering rack loses signal, or has an intermittent signal which trips the computer to shutting down steering. It doesn't sound like it's a matter of a good contact being made, but the actual fault has been kept quiet (likely due to liability). Either way, it pisses me off that such an important system doesn't have a better redundancy or failsafe mode.
See that makes sense and reminds of the Aussie guy sayin that they only replaced the module and not the rack as it’s an electronic issue not the hard part issue. So is there a way to just get the controller and replace that? Having a real hard time trying to convince myself to drop it off because I really hate people. I trust a person but people suck. Especially when they say “ohh yeah I’ve done so many of them” and make you feel confident only to be disappointed because again people suck.
 

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So when it’s cold the Goodyear exhilarates are hard and kinda suck under hard acceleration but when the roar is warm and tires are warm they actually work really well. You get a good amount of wheel spin while moving forward without deadhooking or blowing the tires off. I also drive my car in the rain but on warm rainy days they have excellent grip. Temps have to be in 50s and up. Anything by less and they are too hard.

overall experience is they aren’t bad for what I paid for them. A really good all season that if driven normal you will be pleased in any temp.

Not sure what I will get next night just replace the rears when worn until the fronts are completely worn and need a full set.
 

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So I’ll be putting in a camaro 218 carrier soon. Wondering about the camaro axles. Are they beefier and do they work? I tried to search but only found axle back exhaust stuff.
 
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