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A bit of a mixed message coming from our friend mark Reuss, GM Product Chief. Have a quick read of part of his interview with Automobile.

Automobile: Australia’s Holden is being closed as a manufacturing base. What does that portend for the Holden Commodore-based Chevrolet SS? It seems to fill a need.

Reuss: It does fill a need. I don’t know how we’re going to sell it. What’s going to happen with it now that we’ve announced [Holden manufacturing is] gone? It’s either going to be hot or it’s not.

Automobile: It’s almost like a curse for American GM cars—being built in Australia. I’m thinking of the GTO and G8.

Reuss: I know. But because we don’t have a replacement product on [SS’s] heels, I tell the guys at Holden we ought not go out there broadcasting dates on this stuff because as long as people buy ‘em, we’ll make some. There’s no reason we can’t.
What do these answers mean for the future of SS manufacturing? What can we decipher?
 

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From what we've heard from our GM members on this board, it would take about three years to get an assembly plant outfitted and an assembly line tooled up to build a "new" car line here in the states. I beleive someone here has suggested the Camaro facility when it moves here from Canada. Or am I all screwed up in this wishful thinking. With this three year window, movement in this direction would need to start right away with tooling and planning.
 

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What bothers me more than the non-committal answer from Mark Reuss is the perception that both the GTO and G8 were sales failures. This is a perception that is perpetuated by many in the automotive press as evidenced by the quote attributed to Automobile Magazine.

The GTO was a very niche vehicle, that if memory serves me correctly was available with only two options, 17" or 18" wheels and auto or manual trans. The car was not available with navigation, XM, or Bluetooth. And still all 15 thousand or so that were brought here for the 3 model years were sold. There were years that the entire Saab Division didn't sell that many cars in the U.S. As I recall the plan was for 15 thousand a year and that's what was sold. How is that a failure?

The GTO has a loyal following and is maintaining very strong resale values. Even now a low mileage 2005 GTO will bring over $20 thousand. That is almost 70% of the original MSRP. It would be interesting to see how many units of any model car would be sold with such a narrow offering of options. It was a car that filled a niche for a fairly narrow segment of the market.

A bit of a mixed message coming from our friend mark Reuss, GM Product Chief. Have a quick read of part of his interview with Automobile.



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A bit of a mixed message coming from our friend mark Reuss, GM Product Chief. Have a quick read of part of his interview with Automobile.



What do these answers mean for the future of SS manufacturing? What can we decipher?
What the **** did he say? It's pure Gibberish!
 

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What do the Camaro, ATS and CTS all have in common?

They are smaller than the zeta SS. I don't know if I want to give up back seat room if and when they build an SS on the alpha platform.
I don't think the CTS is as small as you think. The old 2nd gen CTS was quite a bit smaller than the G8 being in between the size of a 3 series and 5 series. However the new CTS is much larger than that.
 

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New and old CTS have around 35" of rear leg room. I sat in the new CTS and it isn't any bigger in the back row.

Strange that they did increase the length of the car, but it didn't translate into any extra room in the back row.
 

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What bothers me more than the non-committal answer from Mark Reuss is the perception that both the GTO and G8 were sales failures. This is a perception that is perpetuated by many in the automotive press as evidenced by the quote attributed to Automobile Magazine.

The GTO was a very niche vehicle, that if memory serves me correctly was available with only two options, 17" or 18" wheels and auto or manual trans. The car was not available with navigation, XM, or Bluetooth. And still all 15 thousand or so that were brought here for the 3 model years were sold. There were years that the entire Saab Division didn't sell that many cars in the U.S. As I recall the plan was for 15 thousand a year and that's what was sold. How is that a failure?

The GTO has a loyal following and is maintaining very strong resale values. Even now a low mileage 2005 GTO will bring over $20 thousand. That is almost 70% of the original MSRP. It would be interesting to see how many units of any model car would be sold with such a narrow offering of options. It was a car that filled a niche for a fairly narrow segment of the market.

The 2004's alone sold more than that. Then there was the 2005 and 2006 models also.
 

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I copied this from a post of mine in another thread...

The CTS is, still much smaller than the SS, at least the back seat, trunk and it is much narrower.

Edmunds lists interior measurments as:

CTS
FRONT HEAD ROOM 39.2 in.
FRONT HIP ROOM 53.8 in.
FRONT LEG ROOM 42.6 in.
FRONT SHOULDER ROOM 56.9 in.
REAR HIP ROOM 53.3 in.
REAR HEAD ROOM 37.5 in.
REAR LEG ROOM 35.4 in.
REAR SHOULDER ROOM 54.8 in.

SS
FRONT HEAD ROOM 38.7 in.
FRONT HIP ROOM 57.2 in.
FRONT LEG ROOM 42.3 in.
FRONT SHOULDER ROOM 59.1 in.
REAR HIP ROOM 58.0 in.
REAR HEAD ROOM 38.0 in.
REAR LEG ROOM 39.7 in.
REAR SHOULDER ROOM 59.0 in

The SS interior is longer and wider than the CTS. (GM can stretch the Alpha platform, but they can't make it wider.)

The CTS trunk is 13.7 cubic feet and the SS is 16.4!

To me this the difference between a midsize 4 door car (CTS) and a full size 4 door car (SS).
 
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