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Not even the SRT Charger/300 comes with a manual, neither of the (new) Charger/300 has ever seen a manual matted to its flywheel. At their core the Charger/300 are still family sedans and the fact of the matter is family sedans don’t sell well with manuals. The Dodge Dart has been struggling because dealers received MT versions before automatics and they sell very few MTs.

From an ROI perspective I understand what they're up to, from an enthusiasts perspective im pissed off. For these big makers its all number driven, lets say hypothetically there are 1000 SS’ with a M6 but only 500 are sold new at MSRP, the other half will sit on a lot and eventually get sold through discounting or heavy incentives. As a corp would you rather risk that half of your M6 SS’ inventory ends up rotting on lots, or skip the risk and make them all auto knowing they will sell..

The SS is for men who can't make their wives believe the Camaro is a practical a family car. Considering most wives dont drive stick its also about usability. I remember growing up my dads pickups were always stick and if he had to take her car for something she was stuck home because she couldnt drive stick.
 

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Agree but how much more would it be to bring in a small number of 6MTs?

Would it have costed Chevy that much more?

I do believe the automatic will sell better in numbers. But to be taken seriously by enthusiasts and even magazine and online car editors they need to have a 6MT option.
 

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Agree but how much more would it be to bring in a small number of 6MTs?

Would it have costed Chevy that much more?

I do believe the automatic will sell better in numbers. But to be taken seriously by enthusiasts and even magazine and online car editors they need to have a 6MT option.
The finance guys are in charge, they couldnt care less about enthusiasts, magazines or editors. They manage to a number and that's it. What will provide the best ROI to our government handlers. Seriously, I see the SS M6 issue to be predominately red tape mechanical rape.
 

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Continue to say this is not a financial or other enthusiast type issue. calibrations were not done for MY2014. this decision may have been made somewhere up the chain but likely was driven by engineering and prioritization. M6 coming for 2015-2017...
 

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Continue to say this is not a financial or other enthusiast type issue. calibrations were not done for MY2014. this decision may have been made somewhere up the chain but likely was driven by engineering and prioritization. M6 coming for 2015-2017...
any way to confirm that a manual is coming in 2015?
just want to be sure of it
 

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Once I have confirmation I will post here however now it is just engineering folks telling me it's coming.... I plan to buy a 2015 M6 to replace the M6 GXP... I rarely get it wrong...
 

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Once I have confirmation I will post here however now it is just engineering folks telling me it's coming.... I plan to buy a 2015 M6 to replace the M6 GXP... I rarely get it wrong...
sounds good so far, if it's coming from the engineering team then pretty much confirms it.

at least now members know they'll be better off waiting for 2015 models, that will be the year the SS shines and TT_C6's faith in Chevy restores lol
 

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I don't know what's in the pipeline engine wise for the Alpha based Camaro and subsequent SS but suspect given the CAFE requirements we will see turbo4, twin turbo V6 and smaller displacement V8's. Because I own a newer Camaro GM has sent me two different surveys asking about my buying habits for future Camaro gens. There were many questions about engine size and the focus seemed to be 5.0 liter. GM doesn't have a 5.0 currently and maybe they were just positioning that number but I got the sense engines are shrinking along with the cars. As long as power to weight ratio doesn't change I won't complain. Hope to keep my 6.2 Camaro and next year a 6.2 SS for a long time...
 

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I don't know what's in the pipeline engine wise for the Alpha based Camaro and subsequent SS but suspect given the CAFE requirements we will see turbo4, twin turbo V6 and smaller displacement V8's. Because I own a newer Camaro GM has sent me two different surveys asking about my buying habits for future Camaro gens. There were many questions about engine size and the focus seemed to be 5.0 liter. GM doesn't have a 5.0 currently and maybe they were just positioning that number but I got the sense engines are shrinking along with the cars. As long as power to weight ratio doesn't change I won't complain. Hope to keep my 6.2 Camaro and next year a 6.2 SS for a long time...
Im actually looking forward to this beast of a V6

 

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I don't know what's in the pipeline engine wise for the Alpha based Camaro and subsequent SS but suspect given the CAFE requirements we will see turbo4, twin turbo V6 and smaller displacement V8's. Because I own a newer Camaro GM has sent me two different surveys asking about my buying habits for future Camaro gens. There were many questions about engine size and the focus seemed to be 5.0 liter. GM doesn't have a 5.0 currently and maybe they were just positioning that number but I got the sense engines are shrinking along with the cars. As long as power to weight ratio doesn't change I won't complain. Hope to keep my 6.2 Camaro and next year a 6.2 SS for a long time...
Oh that would be cool, bring the old 305 back. I think the Camaro could also use a little bit of a diet, its too chunky for my liking, and the chopped look of the roof has always broke the deal for me.
 

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Latest rumor floating around is Mag Ride for 2015..... well that would be nice with the M6 as well.....
 

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Any word on a possible, super limited production version with an LSA (HSV GTS)? I wouldn't be able to afford it, but it would just be great to have it in roster. I know there would be overlap with the CTS-V, but who cares.
 

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I've asked that question multiple times. It would seem the only engine in the pipeline is the 6.2. LSA would = fun times in a sedan. But then I asked that same question regarding the new Camaro and heard the same thing. Then the ZL1 and Z/28 come along..... Sneaky buggers those engineers at GM... As a result I've dumped ZL1 money into my SS.
 

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whats mag ride? new here and not up to date with all the latest techy bits
Courtesy of Motor Trend Magazine:

...Magneto-rheological shocks, or MR shocks for short, have been one of GM’s most publicized technologies for over a decade. On paper, it allows manufacturers to access a wider range of suspension setup possibilities that non-adjusting shocks may not accommodate. In the real world, MR shock performance has been well-documented: good handling and good ride quality typically coexist. The 2003 C5 Corvette was the first Chevy to offer the tech (standard on the 50th Anniversary Edition). The C7 Stingray continues the trend, with the Z51 Performance Package opening up the additional third-generation Magnetic Ride Control option. Unannounced C7 high-performance models will presumably utilize MagneRide too.

Some readers understand how the MagneRide damping works. The monotube shocks are filled with a special magneto-rheological fluid formulated by Lord Corporation. The gist of the mission brief is the MR fluid, which is dosed with iron particles, can be magnetized at different strengths by way of electromagnetic coils (one coil per shock on previous gens, two on current). The neat trick is the coils can vary the fluid thickness many times per second, so an MR shock is capable of adjusting for road surfaces and driver demands than a run-of-the-mill twin-tube shock. Raising the thickness effectively increases the oil’s viscosity; this in turn affects damping force....
 

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SSS,
You pretty much hit the nail on the head (so to speak).
With a growing family, it's not practical for me to get a Camaro. I mean, this car will represent those of us who want power but have to compromise a bit on size. I think this car has everything you'd want in a sedan at a competitive price.
 
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