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Is the SS Sedan getting the Magnetic Selective Ride Control from the ZL1 Camaro, C6/C7 Corvette, and CTS-V ???

If I understand correctly, it is NOT getting Magnetic Selective Ride Control.
If that's the case, how stupid is GM for giving the SS Sedan BS features that NO ONE needs (self parking, lane departure, cooled seats) and not giving us
a TR6060, LT1, Magnetic Selective Ride Control, etc etc !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On the other hand, if this thing can actually be purchased for $27k, it's a good deal for the money.
If it's much more than that, GM can kiss my a$$.
I'm telling you now, the PPV sedan has a MSRP of $32k. Paying more than that just doesn't make sense.
 

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$27k will buy you a fairly nice Honda Accord. Not the top of the line EX, but still nice.
 
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TT, you should have a look at the new Q50, available with DCT and AWD, Frankly, I plan on having a look before I commit to an SS:

When it hits dealerships this summer, the all-new Infiniti Q50 will have a starting price of $37,355 (including a $905 destination charge). That's $900 less than the base price for the 2013 Infiniti G37 sedan, the car the Q50 replaces in Infiniti's lineup. The base Q50 comes with rear-wheel drive; adding all-wheel drive costs an extra $1,800. All trim levels come with a 328-horsepower, 3.7-liter V-6 and a seven-speed automatic transmission. http://www.cars.com/autoshows/new-york/
The Q50 Hybrid is considerably more expensive with a starting price of $44,605 including destination, but it's also more powerful: Infiniti says the 3.5-liter V-6 and electric motor combine to produce 354 hp. Rear-drive is standard and all-wheel drive is again an additional $1,800.



Infiniti says this is an "introductory pre-order" pricing offer, with pricing subject to change in the summer when the car arrives. The automaker didn't specify what the price of the car will be then, only that it would be evaluated. You can reserve and configure your Q50 at the Q50 microsite, and if you buy one during the introductory period, Infiniti will include a free iPad Mini. Trim level-specific prices follow:

  • Q50 RWD: $37,355
  • Q50 AWD: $39,155
  • Q50 Premium RWD: $40,205
  • Q50 Premium AWD: $42,005
  • Q50 Sport RWD: $43,855
  • Q50 Sport AWD: $45,655
  • Q50 Hybrid Premium RWD: $44,605
  • Q50 Hybrid Premium AWD: $46,405
  • Q50 Hybrid Sport RWD: $47,005
  • Q50 Hybrid Sport AWD $48,805
All prices include a $905 destination charge.
 

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Look at that.

Q50 Sport RWD: $43,855

And that's with a V6.
 

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TT, you should have a look at the new Q50, available with DCT and AWD.
Unfortunately, the Infiniti does not offer DCT. You need to buy a GTR for that. Infiniti needs a sedan with the GTR drivetrain.
I don't think you can beat the Q50 for an all around daily driver FOR THE MONEY, especially in cold and wet conditions when you add the AWD.
S4 is a nice upgrade for $11k more and the Corvette is what I drive year round in Florida.

Look at that.

Q50 Sport RWD: $43,855

And that's with a V6.
Since you sounded like a smart a$$, I am going to respond:


Q50 RWD: $37,355



That $37k Q50 comes with everything you need to run 13 second timeslips and has all the creature comforts you need.
Bare in mind, I bought mine, with the addition of AWD, for $32k.
So, now you have a real world sales sheet number to compare.
That "sport" model price you quote comes with a bunch of crap you don't need, and I don't want. Plus, that money spent on options is lost in resale.

In comparison, a $27k sales price for the SS Sedan makes it an alternative I would consider.
 

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I was watching a video of the unveiling and the rep said the car has dual clutch technology, but I guess that's only in the 345hp hybrid model.

"The 2014 Infiniti Q50 is equipped with a standard 3.7-liter V-6 engine generating an estimated 328 horsepower and 269 lb.-ft. of torque. An available Infiniti Direct Response Hybrid with Intelligent Dual Clutch Control powertrain is available for the new Q50, combining a 3.5-liter V-6 engine with a 50 kWh electric motor and a compact Lithium-ion battery. Combined, the gas-electric hybrid powertrain generates 354 horsepower."

I'll bet that hybrid boosted version goes like a m'fer. The nice thing about the Infiniti is you can actually configure it for what you want and what you want to spend, instead of the SS take-it-or-leave-it pricing.
 

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I don't believe any Ininiti gets a DCT for a transmission.
I think the clutches they were referring to engage the electric motor.
The Q50 replaces the G35/G37 and I donn't think it's a worthwhile upgrade for any current G owner.

Regardless, I am not taking on the complexity of an electric motor until they have proven to be reliable long term, and can offer day to day operation without the use of gasoline.

It goes without saying I require 13 second 1/4mile performance as a minimum for a daily driver, too.
 

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it wil not cost no were near $27k lets all hope it will be under $40
Under $40k at around the mid $30k's is where I want to see the SS price at. But most of us have been pricing it for what it's worth to us, meanwhile there have been reports GM would price it a bit higher than it should be. Hopefully it doesn't pass the $40k mark
 

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Q50 pricing was released today. (New G37)
Depending on how good the new "fauxe leather" is on the "base " model;
they are either jacking up the price, or forcing you to pay for a premium option, a navigation and a spare tire for real leather.
Infiniti corporate said the package "bundling" is subject to change, but the bundling
creates $5,000 price increase over my AWD sedan with a sunroof just to get leather.
Yes, that 45k includes the addition of navigation, but my Android phone's Google maps BLOWS anything away from the factory, and my G displays my phones display (mirror) in thedash with a cable connection. :)

The price increase doesn't really exist if the "fauxe leather" is on par with the real leather that is the same in all G cars.
 

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Q50 pricing was released today. (New G37)
Depending on how good the new "fauxe leather" is on the "base " model;
they are either jacking up the price, or forcing you to pay for a premium option, a navigation and a spare tire for real leather.
Infiniti corporate said the package "bundling" is subject to change, but the bundling
creates $5,000 price increase over my AWD sedan with a sunroof just to get leather.
Yes, that 45k includes the addition of navigation, but my Android phone's Google maps BLOWS anything away from the factory, and my G displays my phones display (mirror) in thedash with a cable connection. :)

The price increase doesn't really exist if the "fauxe leather" is on par with the real leather that is the same in all G cars.
Even the Infiniti Q50 priced at $45k, it's still very well worth it IMO. To start I love what they did with it's exterior design, interior isn't that great but still good, just need to see how it performs. Apparently it's still somewhat based on the G37. Plus I believe this is the model they are going to use to eventually build a BMW 3-series competitor out of
 

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Even the Infiniti Q50 priced at $45k, it's still very well worth it IMO. To start I love what they did with it's exterior design, interior isn't that great but still good, just need to see how it performs. Apparently it's still somewhat based on the G37. Plus I believe this is the model they are going to use to eventually build a BMW 3-series competitor out of
If you had to pick either the SS for 45k or the Infiniti for 45k, what would you choose?

(asking everyone)
 

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The advantage of the Q50 is the options. You can get hybrid (taken from the M35h) and you can choose RWD or AWD. No manual transmission option though.

I am on the infinitiq50 forum as well. Also interested in the Q50 - always been a fan of the G37 sedans and coupes

2014 Infiniti Q50 Order Guide Leak - 2014 Infiniti Q50 Forum

Chevy SS vs Q50? Hard to say. It is hard to ignore the V8.
 

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If you had to pick either the SS for 45k or the Infiniti for 45k, what would you choose?

(asking everyone)
I hate to say it, but I would get the Infiniti.

Chevy is an entry level domestic brand, and should be priced accordingly.
Remember, the SS drivetrain is derived from pickup trucks and shared across the entire GM family of brands and the SS Sedan is an old, recycled chassis.

A G37 can be had for $30k, and a Chevy should sell for less.

Take these initial SUGGESTED RETAIL prices for the Q50 with a grain of salt. Sales sheet prices are always less.
Besides, Infiniti corporate is already backpeddling on pricing/bundling when I contacted them directly.



You can get hybrid (taken from the M35h) and you can choose RWD or AWD.
The added cost, complexity, and liability of the Q50 hybrid is not worth it.
 

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I don't think so. I have heard many happy M35h owners.

Maybe if I was financing I would be concerned - but the same would go for any hybrid.

If I was leasing I would not mind the hybrid. The Q50 hybrid isnt a prius - its good good power.
 

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On the fence. By the time I configured a Q50 the way I'd want it I was over $50k, and when I configured it with what I would live with, I was right at $45k. I think the Q50 is a better looking car overall, and while I've universally hated Infiniti interiors as WAY too cheap and plasticky for the price, the Q50 interior looks great to me. It'll boil down to the road test.

My guess is the Infiniti will be smooth and handle well, and the SS will be Godzilla. Then it'll be a battle between my practical side, and the 15 year old in me who tends to pop out only to make irrational decisions and then disappears to leave me and my bank account to deal with the consequences.

Last time I heard from that 15 year old was a few seconds before I inked the deal on the GTO, although I have to admit, I have the most fun when I let that kid loose once in awhile.
 

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You definitely can't compare the sound and feel of a V8 to a V6. The Nissan VQ is an outstanding motor but I don't think it is the answer to a proper V8.

This is the red light drag kind white guy in me talking.

I don't know.. I like how the SS looks. The Q50 looks mature but the SS just looks badass.
 
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