[C4b4the04]

Man, I get all the good luck on my car. First was my "discovery" of the inop GPS (CAN BUS wire bypass), then my rear defrost grid damaged (replaced rear window) and now a gooey windshield and flaky Lane Departure.

I am a perfectionist, in that even if I don't USE it, every feature in my cars NEEDS to work as intended (sans the 3G of course, can't control that one!). So I find myself in a new spot with my goofy '14.

The lane departure light is on the steering wheel but the beeping and graphic on the gauge cluster comes and goes. Did it three times this morning. Someone on FB suggested a dirty windshield, which I checked at lunch and now realize I have gooey oil running down inside my windshield, you guessed it, right near the lane departure/wiper sensor modules. I will dig in and figure out what the heck is going on. Crazy. Has anyone here changed these themselves? I have access to a GM scan tool and can program but it appears it may not be necessary, assuming I can get a used lane departure camera. They are a standard part across GM and NOT Holden specific (part number is 23356728).

I've seen two posts on this topic but no real answer as to what causes this. Looking for any insight as to what the oil "is" rather than just "cleaning it up and moving on".


FWIW, I have been working hard on a standalone solution for the 14 to run NPP/BiValve mufflers. Due to the bad weather across the country, all of my connectors and the ONE transistor I don't have in my box are stuck in shipping. I think I have a cheap solution with GM style connectors! More on that soon.

Cassidy

 

[15SuperSport]

Man, I get all the good luck on my car. First was my "discovery" of the inop GPS (CAN BUS wire bypass), then my rear defrost grid damaged (replaced rear window) and now a gooey windshield and flaky Lane Departure.

I am a perfectionist, in that even if I don't USE it, every feature in my cars NEEDS to work as intended (sans the 3G of course, can't control that one!). So I find myself in a new spot with my goofy '14.

The lane departure light is on the steering wheel but the beeping and graphic on the gauge cluster comes and goes. Did it three times this morning. Someone on FB suggested a dirty windshield, which I checked at lunch and now realize I have gooey oil running down inside my windshield, you guessed it, right near the lane departure/wiper sensor modules. I will dig in and figure out what the heck is going on. Crazy. Has anyone here changed these themselves? I have access to a GM scan tool and can program but it appears it may not be necessary, assuming I can get a used lane departure camera. They are a standard part across GM and NOT Holden specific (part number is 23356728).

I've seen two posts on this topic but no real answer as to what causes this. Looking for any insight as to what the oil "is" rather than just "cleaning it up and moving on".


FWIW, I have been working hard on a standalone solution for the 14 to run NPP/BiValve mufflers. Due to the bad weather across the country, all of my connectors and the ONE transistor I don't have in my box are stuck in shipping. I think I have a cheap solution with GM style connectors! More on that soon.

Cassidy

I would make certain as best you can that your sunroof drains are functioning and not clogged. You may be able to remove the overhead console and get a better look to see if it is coming from under the headliner or perhaps a bad seal at the top of the windshield. Good luck, keep us informed.

 

[C4b4the04]

I would make certain as best you can that your sunroof drains are functioning and not clogged. You may be able to remove the overhead console and get a better look to see if it is coming from under the headliner or perhaps a bad seal at the top of the windshield. Good luck, keep us informed.

Good advice, will do. I just don't have any other indicator that water intrusion is part of it. No smell, no wetness, etc. I saw that someone here a few years ago had a module literally 'melt' and the dealer replaced under warranty. I'll take pics when I get in there. Tonight will be 17 degree wind chill....may wait a few days, lol

 

[C4b4the04]

So it takes all of 3 seconds to take the camera out. I noticed that if I tapped on it, while it was acting up, it would often come back on.
I brought it inside and opened it up. There’s a very fine ribbon cable from the camera to the PCB. It looks like it could vibrate loose in 9 years of driving, given that ANY design to mount this would be more secure. So I’ll start there and report back. This camera fits about a zillion GM cars, no special Holden part here.

Also noted that the oily residue is clearly coming from the rain sensing wiper control 13372765, a common and easy to get part. I’m not sure the leaking matters to it, I’ll take a look on some other forums and see what I find too.

 

[C4b4the04]

 

[36thEVACVet]

Auto dimming rear view mirrors are filed with a thick liquid. My 2002 BMW M Coupe had one that leaked…they ALL leaked.

 

[copacetic1]

Don’t know if you found this thread…

Front Windshield Sensor Leakage?

So I've noticed some oil like fluid leaking from a sensor near the rear view mirror. Has anyone had this issue and know what the sensor is and what may be causing it? I'm a new owner and the weird thing is that the headlights seem to turn on too soon and I wasn't sure if this might be related...

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[C4b4the04]

So a quick update on my lane departure issue…

First off, I realize now that you have to go a certain speed for it to activate. On the BMWs it is 50 km an hour, which is roughly 35 to 36 miles an hour in the states. Now, the system can function below that speed, as far down as 31 miles an hour, apparently the camera data becomes less accurate and so the system will disable itself somewhere between 32 and 30 miles an hour.

Mine also seems to like a warm up., For example in the cold darkness of the morning I can’t tell if it is light or temperature related, but the system will not come on until I am a little further towards work. However, after re-seating that ribbon cable inside the module, once the system starts to function it never stops working. So I may have had a loose connection internally between my camera and the module itself. It was very simple to lift up levers and push the cable tightly back in.

I still have goop on my windshield so that likely is a rain sensor going belly up. Mirror isn’t leaking at all.

 

[SSlushbox]

Man, I get all the good luck on my car. First was my "discovery" of the inop GPS (CAN BUS wire bypass), then my rear defrost grid damaged (replaced rear window) and now a gooey windshield and flaky Lane Departure.

I am a perfectionist, in that even if I don't USE it, every feature in my cars NEEDS to work as intended (sans the 3G of course, can't control that one!). So I find myself in a new spot with my goofy '14.

The lane departure light is on the steering wheel but the beeping and graphic on the gauge cluster comes and goes. Did it three times this morning. Someone on FB suggested a dirty windshield, which I checked at lunch and now realize I have gooey oil running down inside my windshield, you guessed it, right near the lane departure/wiper sensor modules. I will dig in and figure out what the heck is going on. Crazy. Has anyone here changed these themselves? I have access to a GM scan tool and can program but it appears it may not be necessary, assuming I can get a used lane departure camera. They are a standard part across GM and NOT Holden specific (part number is 23356728).

I've seen two posts on this topic but no real answer as to what causes this. Looking for any insight as to what the oil "is" rather than just "cleaning it up and moving on".


FWIW, I have been working hard on a standalone solution for the 14 to run NPP/BiValve mufflers. Due to the bad weather across the country, all of my connectors and the ONE transistor I don't have in my box are stuck in shipping. I think I have a cheap solution with GM style connectors! More on that soon.

Cassidy

I think I had the same failure as you did in my 2014. This is the report I made at the time with pictures and descriptions attached. Perhaps this is useful for you. Good luck.

Rear view mirror electronics leaking

Hi- Just wanted to let you all know that I had a weird failure of the electronics behind the mirror. Took the car in for an oil change, the driver seat clamps and the balljoint recall, also reported that I had several "oily runs" (like drips of oil running down the inside of the windshield from...

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[piratemike]

Are there any electrolitic caps in the electronics? I have seen them leak this weird goo when they go bad, mind you everything still worked but the caps most certainly leaked, smelled weird too.

 

[C4b4the04]

Are there any electrolitic caps in the electronics? I have seen them leak this weird goo when they go bad, mind you everything still worked but the caps most certainly leaked, smelled weird too.

That was my first thought too, some cap was leaking. No smell though, and the surface mount caps all appeared in good shape.

It is the goop inside of the wiper rain sensing device that is leaking. It is still working, just leaking its jelly on the window. I'll order another one soon and swap it over.

Update on the "fix". One full week now, it is acting 100% as expected. Some notes on the system:

To recap what I did to "fix" my intermittent issue: Remove the black trim behind the rear view mirror (no tools). Disconnect the electrical plug on the camera (no tools). Remove the camera by unclipping it (no tools). Using a Torx bit screwdriver, remove the few screws holding it together. Carefully disconnecting the flat ribbon cable connectors and reseating them, I chose to clean my cable with a clean rubber pencil eraser to remove any oxidation that I may not see. Reassemble and install.


VERY sensitive to moisture/condensation on the windshield. If you have your defrost on, and it isn't working, swipe your wipers and give it 10 seconds. Even though your viewing area is clear, the defrost air cannot get under that assembly behind the mirror and warm that glass. Moisture will condense right there and cause the camera not to work.

Speed really matters when it will start functioning. To say "around" 35 isn't enough. KPH is a finer division than MPH and I have a feeling the 50 KPH/35 MPH crossover is closer to 36 MPH to activate. The system can function down to 32 miles an hour but shuts off between 31 and 30. Completely to be expected, nothing wrong with the system. From what I've read on Bimmer forums, the camera cannot gather enough accurate data below that speed. Knowing they modeled these cars after the BMW in many ways, this makes sense.


It is EXTREMELY sensitive to light. Some dark road conditions and it is toast. Streetlights seem to help but I have encountered two early morning drives where it did not want to function. As soon as I got onto a well lit road, it came right back.

 

[piratemike]

Thanks for the follow up... so its filled with a goo.... yeah thats gonna fail sometime soon now thatbi know about it =/

 

[willy92]

It is EXTREMELY sensitive to light. Some dark road conditions and it is toast. Streetlights seem to help but I have encountered two early morning drives where it did not want to function. As soon as I got onto a well lit road, it came right back.

A long time ago there was a thread on here about modifying the light sensor on the dash to reduce that sensitivity. I did to mine and it worked perfectly after that.

 

[Kevin0311]

Ambient Light Sensor Fix

The problem: To those that don't want to read this whole mess of a thread: The light sensor is the little hemisphere sticking out of the middle of your dashboard near the windshield. It has three functions. Lighting up red when the alarm is on, giving feedback to the auto-HVAC system and...

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dash speaker does not have to be removed i have personally had out with out removal.