i wasn't auguring with you... :X however it is not misleading. your misleading people by using an aftermarket manufacture to judge they are the same. not to mention you are a cutting and pasting off the internet, just to show that someone listed them with the same part number. not to mention have even looked at the the springs or struts off the car?
as far as i am concerned if you don't want to buy H&R so be it no sweat off my back. buy a rebranded over priced pedders product as far as i am concerned.
So which one of you fellas has something figured out to lower my SS? hmmmm????
I haven't misled anyone. The Pedders Australia listing (from their own Oz website) was simply to provide a point of reference--if any supplier SHOULD know, it would be an Australian brand, as to what products they offer may be common between VE & VF chassis. It was not an effort to steer anyone toward using a specific brand of lowering spring...Pedders does not appear to be favored, for various reasons, but I have no reason to pile on--I don't take cheap shots if they aren't deserved. If there is another brand that substantiates or refutes their spring info regarding VE<>VF spring compatibility, by all means, post it up.
I made reference to H&R, which offers a G8 (VE) spring kit, to suggest that in ANY effort to determine what is needed to lower the VF chassis, a supplier would logically start their process by acquiring the production springs from the OE and evaluating them against their current fitment of a similar platform (G8 in this case), as it MAY be that, just as Pedders Australia has indicated by their listings, that the same springs offered for VE (and WM - Caprice) are suitable for VF. That they (H&R) are willing to take the springs from (your) SS is good, though I maintain that IF they were truly interested in a fitment for this chassis, the work would have already been done.
I ran into this when researching lowering springs for the 2011 Caprice PPV (WM platform), which is simply a stretched VE chassis--with another 150 - 200# or so of total vehicle weight. H&R was not able or willing to offer any assistance, but I've since learned that their G8 springs do work for the PPV, even though it is not listed as an application for their spring kit.
To suggest that the VE springs from various sources cannot be correct due to difference in vehicle weight is the misleading part of this--for production springs from the OEM, yes, they are quite specific due to the ride/trim height targets set for each production variant...but not so much in the aftermarket for lowering springs (if Pedders info is correct in regard to their own products).
And to be clear, I have no preference, and definitely no issues with H&R, otherwise--my intent is only to indicate that the aftermarket spring market, generally, is not responding as fast on this vehicle as potential customers seem to want - as LiquidR3D's inquiry suggests. I won't say "just use H&R G8 springs", but I am inclined to believe they WILL work--ie. they will FIT, but it's not a lock that the change in ride height will be the same as claimed for G8, for various reasons--especially if there's a difference in strut/shock spring collar placement, when comparing VE & VF components--although the Pedders information on their springs would suggest this is not the case.
I may ultimately consider using some OE SS springs to lower my own car (PPV) which was built with a higher baseline ride height.
We're all learning, hopefully.