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NICE!!!!!

Too bad the SS falls into the "vanilla, quiet, plain cars" the ad was refering to.
 

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Don't be so sure the SS is Vanilla. if our 6 litre SS is anything to go by the 6.2 litre SS should make you never want to get out of the drivers seat. Just plain dumb to not offer a manual is the only concern.
 

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Don't be so sure the SS is Vanilla. if our 6 litre SS is anything to go by the 6.2 litre SS should make you never want to get out of the drivers seat. Just plain dumb to not offer a manual is the only concern.
Even though most sites are saying the auto is better. I think this is the classic "grass is greener on the neighbor's side".
 

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If SS was aimed at the commuter driver auto only would not be a problem, but some of the people who want the SS want to "drive" the car, not just go from A to B, with the exception of grange (caprice) all HSV are manual with optional auto
 

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The GTS looks and sounds mean (I even have it as a wallpaper), but let's be realistic: at AUD 93k, who would they be selling it to?

I can already imagine the outcry.
"A Camaro ZL1 can be had for $54k"
"No way I would buy this over a CTS-V"

In the US, that's M5 territory. The poor HSV would struggle, and rightly so.
 

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Good commercial.

The car: awesome styling...except for that front end. Everything else is awesome!
 

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The GTS looks and sounds mean (I even have it as a wallpaper), but let's be realistic: at AUD 93k, who would they be selling it to?

I can already imagine the outcry.
"A Camaro ZL1 can be had for $54k"
"No way I would buy this over a CTS-V"

In the US, that's M5 territory. The poor HSV would struggle, and rightly so.
The GTS does include a substantial luxury tax, but doesn't explain why German luxury in Oz costs up to 3 times for the same vehicle as in the US.
Apple were recently hauled before a senate inquiry and asked why they charged Australians 30% more for music than everyone else in the world. Their response: warehouse storage costs were much more expensive!! I just wish the senators had asked to view MP3's stored on warehouse shelves.
It makes me think of Hitler: Tell a lie often enough and everyone will believe it. Apple refused to change their clearly obvious BS. Such exquisite contempt.
 

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The GTS looks and sounds mean (I even have it as a wallpaper), but let's be realistic: at AUD 93k, who would they be selling it to?

I can already imagine the outcry.
"A Camaro ZL1 can be had for $54k"
"No way I would buy this over a CTS-V"

In the US, that's M5 territory. The poor HSV would struggle, and rightly so.
here in aus we have a luxury car tax of 33c/$ for every dollar above $60,316 added to the price, LCT freshhold raises to $75,375 for vehicles considered to be fuel efficient (those below 7L/100km) or grater then 35 mpg

the 95k HSV can compete here becouse the competition is way over priced, and german luxury cars are the worst, followed by the italians
here is a link to BMW aust drive away price for a M5 sedan
Compare Prices BMW M5 Sedan

if you want to change the model you will need to use an aus post code,
i used 3166
 

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their is good and bad in the high prices we pay here, the good side is holden can make a case to expand the sedan into a wagon and ute version, the bad part is we pay in the price.

as for HSV their is no way in **** they will ever be competitive on the US market, the competition is too good at their price point, also GMNA will never let them have access to the US market.
 

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their is good and bad in the high prices we pay here, the good side is holden can make a case to expand the sedan into a wagon and ute version, the bad part is we pay in the price.

as for HSV their is no way in **** they will ever be competitive on the US market, the competition is too good at their price point, also GMNA will never let them have access to the US market.
The GTS is currently flogging the AMG E63 Black and the BMW M5 around Europe in handling and ride comfort.

In Australia, its less than half the price of the BMW and AMG and just a tad bit higher than the base Camaro V8.

Holden and HSV can definitely make a case and be competitive with its competition in Europe and America, its just that GM wont allow them to compete (GM wants Cadillac to be the top dog). Holden and HSV even tried to buck GM management by having a few diesel mules (including one with a BMW engine) in preparation for a European push (they understood that they cant compete without a good diesel in Europe). GM told them to put up or shut up.
 
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