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Honestly? The only thing I could think of is atleast 5000 signatures on a petition and thats as far as my thinking takes me. If first year production hasn't even started yet, there is a possiblity to get some by the end of the 2014 production run with enough confirmed buyers willing to put down a deposit for a SS along with a signature asking for a stick.
 

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Meanwhile, in Australia, they'll be lucky if they get the LS3 at all. Odds are they are going to end up with the same 6 liter (L98?) from the VE.
 

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I special ordered a Pontiac Firebird Formula back in '98.Came with a manual trans. It was fun rowing through the gears for the first week or so. Seems my left knee which was injured in a bad cycle accident back in '93, wasn't as thrilled. I was able to give it back to the dealership with just over 400 miles showing and picked up a new Grand Prix GT.

So in my case, you can keep all manual trans 4 wheeled vehicles. A robust auto trans is best for me. Besides, don't most drag racers prefer an auto trans for best results down the drag strip?

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I special ordered a Pontiac Firebird Formula back in '98.Came with a manual trans. It was fun rowing through the gears for the first week or so. Seems my left knee which was injured in a bad cycle accident back in '93, wasn't as thrilled. I was able to give it back to the dealership with just over 400 miles showing and picked up a new Grand Prix GT.

So in my case, you can keep all manual trans 4 wheeled vehicles. A robust auto trans is best for me. Besides, don't most drag racers prefer an auto trans for best results down the drag strip?

Steve
Yea that sucks dude but it's no reason why the car shouldn't come with the option. I have knee issues too.
 

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I agree that the upcoming SS should come with both trans set-ups, but can't fully understand , especially with a larger car like this, why there aren't more people pro auto trans. A small car like a Miata or domestic econo-boxes sure, a manual trans seems a no brainer. Both transmissions offer pros and cons.
 

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I think an auto transmission should be available but I also think a manual transmission should be available for those who want it. It really isn't that hard to offer a manual considering it is already out there on the Holden.
 

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I agree that the upcoming SS should come with both trans set-ups, but can't fully understand , especially with a larger car like this, why there aren't more people pro auto trans. A small car like a Miata or domestic econo-boxes sure, a manual trans seems a no brainer. Both transmissions offer pros and cons.
I agree. I prefer an auto on a large car. But, if it's larger, I MUST have AWD. So, large cars have to be AWD and Auto.
Sport coupes should be RWD with a manual, and by manual I mean either a stickshift or DCT.
 

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If the SS gets a manual, I hope they've figured out a shifter that doesn't feel like it's trapped in rubbery goo like the Goats. I lost track of how many run ins with Mustangs I almost lost for missing 3rd.
 

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If the SS gets a manual, I hope they've figured out a shifter that doesn't feel like it's trapped in rubbery goo like the Goats. I lost track of how many run ins with Mustangs I almost lost for missing 3rd.
The first thing I install on the day I buy a new car is a Pro 5.0 shifter with a custom threaded 8-ball for a handle.
It's the best mod I have ever made to any car, even better than a blower.
Hard to believe, but true.
 

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The first thing I install on the day I buy a new car is a Pro 5.0 shifter with a custom threaded 8-ball for a handle.
It's the best mod I have ever made to any car, even better than a blower.
Hard to believe, but true.
Yes very true, make all the world of difference with the Pro 5.0 shifter.

The car is considered a sports sedan, it should be appealing to those guys who need the extra room for kids/family and still want a fun, powerful, sporty car. And guess what having a manual transmission just makes the car that much closer to meeting those goals.
 

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Yeah, a shifter upgrade was by far the most popular, at least for the guys on the GTO forum. Big improvement for relatively low dollars. It was on my list and then the car got hit and the paint never looked right. It never looked right because I broke my own rule and let the dealership body shop fix it. They repainted the same door three times...it weighed like six pounds more than it should. Then, when I paid a real shop to strip it all down and re-do it and sent them the bill, they paid it and sent me a letter telling me not to come back. GM dealers suck.


So I call a guy at the Cadillac dealership about a new CTS and tell him I'll be by on a Saturday afternoon to put together a trade.

I clean the Goat all up and show up, and the guy decided it was a slow day so he went home. No problem...find me a salesman who wants to sell a car today. Nope. It's the other guys deal. I need to come back on Monday. GM dealers suck.

I'm so pissed I drive to Mercedes to look at a C Class, which I hated, but they had a CPO S500 for the same money and I bought that instead. Mercedes dealers do not suck. At least they act like they give a [email protected] about their customers.

Really, the single biggest turn off about the SS is that I have to go to a GM dealer to get it. Rant over.
 

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Meanwhile, in Australia, they'll be lucky if they get the LS3 at all. Odds are they are going to end up with the same 6 liter (L98?) from the VE.
Yep we're only getting the 6 litre. It was confirmed when drive.com.au printed an article saying it would be identicle and the show car they saw at launch had a LS3.
Bloody fools they are. At launch the media were told the show car had the 6 litre. The website had to do a retraction article saying Aus gets the 6 litre and the US get LS3.

I still cant see why they can't offer the manual straight up as production doesn't even start for Aussie spec cars until sometime toward the end of April.
 

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Yep we're only getting the 6 litre. It was confirmed when drive.com.au printed an article saying it would be identicle and the show car they saw at launch had a LS3.
Bloody fools they are. At launch the media were told the show car had the 6 litre. The website had to do a retraction article saying Aus gets the 6 litre and the US get LS3.

I still cant see why they can't offer the manual straight up as production doesn't even start for Aussie spec cars until sometime toward the end of April.

Sorry, brother. :confused:

If it's any consolation, I prefer the better looks and the manual trans offered in OZ to the LS3.

You can always add a supercharger to your car for serious gains.
Swapping out a auto for a TR6060 is much more of a hassle, and it's wasted money.
 

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Sorry, brother. :confused:

If it's any consolation, I prefer the better looks and the manual trans offered in OZ to the LS3.

You can always add a supercharger to your car for serious gains.
Swapping out a auto for a TR6060 is much more of a hassle, and it's wasted money.
I will still be plenty happy with the 6 litre ( have to admit that I was disappointed about the smaller engine initially). There are tonnes of mods at reasonable cost. Being able to add the Walkinshaw charger kit while retaining factory warranty is good.

I am leaning towards the Ute as I am tired of being volunteered to ferry people around. When I have better things to do like tinker on my project. Thank you Easter for 3 days off, my car should be nearly totally stripped back to a shell for rebuild :)

Still cant understand the no manual option for you guys as it would essentially be a LHD HSV clubsport (available with manual) that looks like an SSV. I suspect the front seats are HSV designed that appear in the Chev show car. Just a guess though.

The LS3 would have been awesome and if they said it was getting the LT1 I would have um been cleaning up for weeks ;).

I am just glad that the next Commodore is in development and just hope that it remains RWD.
 

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Yep we're only getting the 6 litre. It was confirmed when drive.com.au printed an article saying it would be identicle and the show car they saw at launch had a LS3.
Bloody fools they are. At launch the media were told the show car had the 6 litre. The website had to do a retraction article saying Aus gets the 6 litre and the US get LS3.

I still cant see why they can't offer the manual straight up as production doesn't even start for Aussie spec cars until sometime toward the end of April.
It's not that they can't offer a manual trans; they have opted not to extend engineering resources to calibrate what they see as a low priority option. It should be there for 2015 after someone at GM gets off their collective bottoms and performs the calibrations...
 

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It's not that they can't offer a manual trans; they have opted not to extend engineering resources to calibrate what they see as a low priority option. It should be there for 2015 after someone at GM gets off their collective bottoms and performs the calibrations...
With all due respect, I am SO tired of people making excuses for GM.
Some of which, are completely pulled out of their asses.

GM should have AT LEAST launched the SS Sedan with a TR6060 and a LT1.
End of story.
 

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With all due respect, I am SO tired of people making excuses for GM.
Some of which, are completely pulled out of their asses.

GM should have AT LEAST launched the SS Sedan with a TR6060 and a LT1.
End of story.
I'm not making excuses; merely pointing out what I believe is true. I worked and left there for 24 years and I know how the process operates. You can berate GM for being lazy, not in touch with market, and many other things but you are not going to chide them into offering something they don't have to. Malibu and Regal and other product lines = 4 cylinder motors. New Cadillac soon to be shown sitting on the Chevy Volt chassis and powertrain. Camaro's with turbo 4's. Some of us remember the 3rd Gen Camaro with 4 cylinders and how that all worked out. The market spoke and GM listened but not until they discovered TPI.

The writing on the wall is different this time with turbo's and CAFE. You might like to argue with CAFE and GM but your efforts will meet with little success. Suggest you give up on the LT1; it simply isn't going to happen. We will be fortunate if GM does indeed install the M6 as rumored...
 
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