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If all the dieting works I think it could come in between 38 and 3900 pounds converting weight losses is relatively new to me but in Kg around 70 to 100 kg in my speak
 

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I'm thinking with the extra added content over the G8 it will still be over 4000 pounds. Those extra electronics and associated wiring harnesses add up quickly. Also if the new LT1 is included, it weighs a bit more than the LS3 as well. If it were to clock in at 3900 pounds I'd be simply amazed. I believe our G8 GT automatic is somewhere around 3995 lbs. If they would hit that again I'd be surprised. G8 GXP weight is listed at 4050 pounds. If I had to guess, I'd say between 4050 and 4100 pounds. I just don't see a weight loss at all unfortunately.
 

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Don't forget the use of Aluminium will be assisting in the weight savings, I am just unsure how extensive they will utilize it. coupled with supposed lighter weight door trims and a fully re engineered platform to gut the junk they had but never used like AWD transfer case hump. I am reasonably confident it will at the very least not gain on what you said the G8 GT weighed.
I was talking to a local dealer about engines and whether we wouls see the LT motor in SS and he seems confidant that Australia will not get it but hinted to HSV getting some new goodies. What that truly means I don't know however if they get the Gen V as it is fitted at Elizabeth for HSV it isn't outside the realm of possibility for the export car to get it it is just a matter of timing.
No hints about a LHD Ute though :-( But I was also looking at the Volt at the time. It is a neat little car and he remarked along the lines of HSV testing a blown motor at Lang Lang when he was doing some Volt evaluation drive and said it sounded menacing.
He also mentioned volume for Chev and the figure blew my mind with they're 3 year projection it was in the 10's of thousands by year 3 he seemed serious when he said the number but I dunno I can't read salesmen they are a strange breed.
If it is upto 50k a yr I seriously don't understand how they can't get the ute and wagon stateside as engineering I would think should be a cakewalk .
with some of that info it will still be a case of wait and see. I have also scoped out a couple good spots to take pics if I see VF at GMH Elizabeth plus my brothers nice camera setup
 

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Don't forget the use of Aluminium will be assisting in the weight savings, I am just unsure how extensive they will utilize it. coupled with supposed lighter weight door trims and a fully re engineered platform to gut the junk they had but never used like AWD transfer case hump. I am reasonably confident it will at the very least not gain on what you said the G8 GT weighed.
I was talking to a local dealer about engines and whether we wouls see the LT motor in SS and he seems confidant that Australia will not get it but hinted to HSV getting some new goodies. What that truly means I don't know however if they get the Gen V as it is fitted at Elizabeth for HSV it isn't outside the realm of possibility for the export car to get it it is just a matter of timing.
No hints about a LHD Ute though :-( But I was also looking at the Volt at the time. It is a neat little car and he remarked along the lines of HSV testing a blown motor at Lang Lang when he was doing some Volt evaluation drive and said it sounded menacing.
He also mentioned volume for Chev and the figure blew my mind with they're 3 year projection it was in the 10's of thousands by year 3 he seemed serious when he said the number but I dunno I can't read salesmen they are a strange breed.
If it is upto 50k a yr I seriously don't understand how they can't get the ute and wagon stateside as engineering I would think should be a cakewalk .
with some of that info it will still be a case of wait and see. I have also scoped out a couple good spots to take pics if I see VF at GMH Elizabeth plus my brothers nice camera setup
I'm figuring whatever weight savings to be had by use of lighter parts will me made up by (and possibly surpassed) by added content. I'm going to give my guess at 4050 pounds, right on the G8 GXP number if it has the LS3. If it has the new LT1 I'll say 4075. I hope I'm wrong, but better to guess high and then be surprised by a lower weight.

I'm not surprised about the Ute. GM seems to have ZERO interest in offering it here us. :(

As for sales numbers, the price is going to drive the sales. This will sticker for low to mid $40K for a base model. Knowing that I only see sales at 5K to 7K a year. That salesman is just that a salesman, as the old saying goes, "you know when a salesman is lying to you ..... he opens his mouth." ;)
 

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With the car being so big they will have to really think about where to cut weight, going to be a tough one. I guess if they have trouble cutting weight they can always inject more power for a better power to weight ratio :D
 

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I think the engineers at Fisherman's Bend will do a top notch job with removing what they need to without compromising the integrity of the Platform.
Externally I have heard mentioned that for example the front guards are more cosmetic than structural and are confidant with computer modeling to the point that these could be made from Aluminium or othe Composite materials. I would think the door skins would be the same as all the reinforcing bars and such are located behind the skin.
I am more curious to see how much Aluminium they end up using for these areas and associated repair cost guides as it is a harder material to work with in the panel shop business.:)
With the car being so big they will have to really think about where to cut weight, going to be a tough one. I guess if they have trouble cutting weight they can always inject more power for a better power to weight ratio :D
 

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I really doubt the SS will get the new LT1. If the Z28 Camaro is getting the LS7, then I do not see GM putting the new LT1 into this car. Maybe I'm wrong!?!?:confused: Not that I wouldn't like to see it!
 

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The SS will be on the Zeta II platform and is expected to clock in shy of 3700 pounds.
Thats not bad at all. Funny how some luxury COUPES weigh 3600 LBS, so this big sedan weighing in at 3700 is reasonable.

Now i wonder if Chevy did anything to cut weight, if they didn't, will they?
 

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I would expect for a new platform they would implement new tech to make things lighter. It seems like for the ATS they concentrated on low weight so I'm hoping for some new tech in weight savings.
 

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I would expect for a new platform they would implement new tech to make things lighter. It seems like for the ATS they concentrated on low weight so I'm hoping for some new tech in weight savings.
I think they made it light enough to undercut the BMW 3 series, which probably helped it keep up.
 

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Thats not bad at all. Funny how some luxury COUPES weigh 3600 LBS, so this big sedan weighing in at 3700 is reasonable.

Now i wonder if Chevy did anything to cut weight, if they didn't, will they?
Similar to what they have done for the Corvette. You can expect all new Aluminum parts which will not only be lighter, but stronger as well. By shy, I'm expecting it to be somewhere in the 3,650 - 3,700 range. Which is very reasonable given how heavy the GTO, Camaro & G8 were. The latter two were based on the Zeta I platform which was loosely based off the V platform (GTO/Monaro/Commadore).
 

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Similar to what they have done for the Corvette. You can expect all new Aluminum parts which will not only be lighter, but stronger as well. By shy, I'm expecting it to be somewhere in the 3,650 - 3,700 range. Which is very reasonable given how heavy the GTO, Camaro & G8 were. The latter two were based on the Zeta I platform which was loosely based off the V platform (GTO/Monaro/Commadore).
I was reading about that over the weekend, it`s great they're doing that. It's helping to take american "muscle cars" from being cars loaded with power and weight that can't steer or handle properly like european vehicles to vehicles that have the potential to shut out the europeans!

Seeing how carbon fiber is slowly being used in production I think eventually this will be used in GM performance vehicles like the C7 Corvette and SS sedan.

SO maybe one day we'll have a SS sedan with Aluminum & Carbon fiber parts.
 

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The sad part is that it will probable weigh less than a Camaro SS or ZL-1 , hopefully the factory used carbon fiber everywhere they could, heck why not because I bet this thing will be $40k or better loaded up, why cant they just come out with a lightweight 2 door strippo car with an LS3 or LS7 manual and call it a day, that thing would fly off the showroom floors but nobody at GM or anywhere else for that matter has any balls or any foresight into what would sell, they listen to to many people who dont even know the first thing about cars, they just have marketing degrees and that makes them experts on what would sell, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what would sell like hotcakes, for instance Honda with that Ridgeline, why did they even bother, if they would have built a small little $15k-$18k 2wd reg cab with their awesome little K24 motors in them, they would have sold the **** out of those, instead they build a $35k useless crew cab 4x4/awd that couldnt tow a geo metro !!!
 

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The sad part is that it will probable weigh less than a Camaro SS or ZL-1 , hopefully the factory used carbon fiber everywhere they could, heck why not because I bet this thing will be $40k or better loaded up, why cant they just come out with a lightweight 2 door strippo car with an LS3 or LS7 manual and call it a day, that thing would fly off the showroom floors but nobody at GM or anywhere else for that matter has any balls or any foresight into what would sell, they listen to to many people who dont even know the first thing about cars, they just have marketing degrees and that makes them experts on what would sell, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what would sell like hotcakes, for instance Honda with that Ridgeline, why did they even bother, if they would have built a small little $15k-$18k 2wd reg cab with their awesome little K24 motors in them, they would have sold the **** out of those, instead they build a $35k useless crew cab 4x4/awd that couldnt tow a geo metro !!!
To be honest you would be surprised. Marketers base their decisions off data. The market for 2 door light weight stripped sports cars is small. Especially if its expensive. Not saying its a bad idea, just saying they won't sell very many unless its really cheap.
 

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The sad part is that it will probable weigh less than a Camaro SS or ZL-1 , hopefully the factory used carbon fiber everywhere they could, heck why not because I bet this thing will be $40k or better loaded up, why cant they just come out with a lightweight 2 door strippo car with an LS3 or LS7 manual and call it a day, that thing would fly off the showroom floors but nobody at GM or anywhere else for that matter has any balls or any foresight into what would sell, they listen to to many people who dont even know the first thing about cars, they just have marketing degrees and that makes them experts on what would sell, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what would sell like hotcakes, for instance Honda with that Ridgeline, why did they even bother, if they would have built a small little $15k-$18k 2wd reg cab with their awesome little K24 motors in them, they would have sold the **** out of those, instead they build a $35k useless crew cab 4x4/awd that couldnt tow a geo metro !!!

Agreed.
You wonder how these idiots get these big manufacturer jobs and how much better things would be for them if they just LISTENED to the public or just hired CAR GUYS to make product decisions.
 
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