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This thread for finding the best way for the SS Sedan community to let GM know it NEEDS a stickshift as a no charge option.

I have no experience with this.
So, if someone knows how to put a petition together or the best online method to bombard GM that can actually make a difference, please let us know if here.
 

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We could start a Facebook group called "The 2014 Chevy SS Needs A Stick Shift" or something and then start building "Likes". That's the only thing I can think of with the capacity to get their attention.
 
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why should you guys pay more for stick, we pay 2k less.
is it normal for other us models to charge more or less ?
 

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why should you guys pay more for stick, we pay 2k less.
is it normal for other us models to charge more or less ?
In most cases when buying a GM product the stick is less than an equivalent car with an automatic, but I think TT C6's main point is that if we have to order, let us order what we really want.
 

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In the G8, if you wanted a stick, you had to order a GXP, which was significantly more than a GT. Hence, the history of GM charging a premium for a stick in the G8/Commodore.
 

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We could start a Facebook group called "The 2014 Chevy SS Needs A Stick Shift" or something and then start building "Likes". That's the only thing I can think of with the capacity to get their attention.
Someone should really jump on that idea, social media is the way to get the word out, I noticed in the pass that big brands react to anything about them in that form on social media as it makes them look bad if it gets big enough.

In the G8, if you wanted a stick, you had to order a GXP, which was significantly more than a GT. Hence, the history of GM charging a premium for a stick in the G8/Commodore.
That was a stupid move IMO, with the way the automotive market is these days I doubt they can afford to do that, they'll just get laughed at for doing that.

This thread could possibly be monitored by GM. If so, people would merely need to respond here.

For me it is a 6MT or no deal.
That is very possible, I know some Chevy/GM forums (not owned by GM) have GM reps on them. Good chance they are lurking but not getting involved in the discussions.
 

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In the G8, if you wanted a stick, you had to order a GXP, which was significantly more than a GT. Hence, the history of GM charging a premium for a stick in the G8/Commodore.

Just in case I didn't make it obvious enough before, the above is why I didn't buy a G8 and I bought a G37 instead.
 

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I say bombard the official Chevy Facebook page. From a marketing standpoint, it's monitor by the Advertising Agency, not GM. However, they (Ad agency) should do bi-weekly or monthly trending analysis (hot topics) like most other brand do. We should do both, create a separate facebook page and post on the Chevy page: manual trans (doesn't matter so much to me), pricing, etc. ****, can we just get some new pics, product info, etc.
 

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I say bombard the official Chevy Facebook page. From a marketing standpoint, it's monitor by the Advertising Agency, not GM. However, they (Ad agency) should do bi-weekly or monthly trending analysis (hot topics) like most other brand do. We should do both, create a separate facebook page and post on the Chevy page: manual trans (doesn't matter so much to me), pricing, etc. ****, can we just get some new pics, product info, etc.

I'm down for anything.

Post up all ideas with links and instructions.


If someone wants to write "statement" or "letter", we can all cut and paste that "statement" with our own signatures, emails, facebooks, etc.
 

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Don't buy the automatic!
 

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I'm just throwing this out there, but it may not be possible to get a stick in 2014, because if they didn't crash test the car for the US with an extra pedal in it, it's too late now. It sounds crazy that a clutch pedal would impact crash testing, but literally anything that intrudes into the passenger cabin, particularly in the foot-wells where leg injuries occur, has to be crash tested.

I know this because the early 04 GTO's shipped without a dead pedal...that little inert bump on the left side of the driver's foot-well where you rest your left foot when it's not on the clutch...because GM didn't get one fabricated and into a car in time for crash testing. The car passed without it installed and they could not add it back after testing.

If GM submitted the AT car only for US crash certification, adding a third pedal would require a complete additional certification. I'm guessing they didn't want to bother with it this year, and if 2014 sales are soft, they won't bother at all.
 

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I'm just throwing this out there, but it may not be possible to get a stick in 2014, because if they didn't crash test the car for the US with an extra pedal in it, it's too late now. It sounds crazy that a clutch pedal would impact crash testing, but literally anything that intrudes into the passenger cabin, particularly in the foot-wells where leg injuries occur, has to be crash tested.

I know this because the early 04 GTO's shipped without a dead pedal...that little inert bump on the left side of the driver's foot-well where you rest your left foot when it's not on the clutch...because GM didn't get one fabricated and into a car in time for crash testing. The car passed without it installed and they could not add it back after testing.

If GM submitted the AT car only for US crash certification, adding a third pedal would require a complete additional certification. I'm guessing they didn't want to bother with it this year, and if 2014 sales are soft, they won't bother at all.

Oh, sales will be soft. Thats almost a given at this point.
 

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I'm just throwing this out there, but it may not be possible to get a stick in 2014, because if they didn't crash test the car for the US with an extra pedal in it, it's too late now. It sounds crazy that a clutch pedal would impact crash testing, but literally anything that intrudes into the passenger cabin, particularly in the foot-wells where leg injuries occur, has to be crash tested.

I know this because the early 04 GTO's shipped without a dead pedal...that little inert bump on the left side of the driver's foot-well where you rest your left foot when it's not on the clutch...because GM didn't get one fabricated and into a car in time for crash testing. The car passed without it installed and they could not add it back after testing.

If GM submitted the AT car only for US crash certification, adding a third pedal would require a complete additional certification. I'm guessing they didn't want to bother with it this year, and if 2014 sales are soft, they won't bother at all.
If Chevy really is planning to release a M/T version a year after than it should already be in the works.

If not, shame on Chevy cause they won't be getting my money
 

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You know what is the best way? Start a forum petition. Start a facebook page. Start a twitter.

And best of all. Don't buy one.

If sales are not as good because of no 6MT it'll put pressure on them to pump one out.

But truthfully. People will still buy it. The online community is small compared to the real buyers.

You can try to get GMs attention - it would probably work. The question is - how do you get them to actually make a 6MT?
 

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You have to put yourself in GM's shoes and ask why you wouldn't offer an M6. There would obviously be an expectation for a manual option in a performance sedan, so GM anticipated there would be some demand. The hardware exists and is an option on the Holden version. They're building the cars to order so it's not as if they have to guess how demand would shake out for the AT vs the M6. The only plausible answer is that the M6 car either hasn't been submitted for US crash certification, or it was submitted too late for 2014 production.

I have to believe if a manual was a possibility at all they'd be offering it now, especially after announcing BTO only.
 
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You know what is the best way? Start a forum petition. Start a facebook page. Start a twitter.

And best of all. Don't buy one.

If sales are not as good because of no 6MT it'll put pressure on them to pump one out.

But truthfully. People will still buy it. The online community is small compared to the real buyers.

You can try to get GMs attention - it would probably work. The question is - how do you get them to actually make a 6MT?

With all due respect, I don't think so.

We are the "hard core" enthusiasts. Many of us have been waiting for this car for 4 years.
If WE don't even want this car, I think the sales numbers are going to be catastrophic without a manual and a Camaro price tag.
 

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I'm wondering if anyone besides the forum users even know about the SS. Even if others do know about it, if they are not an enthusiast they'll pick up something off another car lot instead of waiting months for a car they haven't even laid eyes on.
 
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