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Holden SS V Redline a sales smash - Autoblog

Going back and reading the comments found this:

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Well the SS will flop here... to expensive for what you get, and a bullsh*t slush box automatic transmission, and they hit it with the Chevy ugly stick....

Bad enough they don't offer a six speed, but to not even equipment with something suitable, like a DCT... Ugh... A slush box auto? really GM?

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GM needs to offer a manual transmission and a Camaro pricetag on the SS Sedan.


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How could it NOT BE?!? Only person in the world that thinks this car should have DCT.... good catch!
 

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A more important take from this - if the SS V Redline is selling so well in Australia, maybe that will allow some room for us to get something extra here. A manual perhaps? Ute.. etc..
 

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A more important take from this - if the SS V Redline is selling so well in Australia, maybe that will allow some room for us to get something extra here. A manual perhaps? Ute.. etc..
good sales in aus will mean a stay of execution for the RWD platform, as long as holden can sell them they will build them.

for the US market, if the number ordered can't justify US production Chev can continue to tap into holdens plant, their is enough noise about manual trans to give chev a case to build it.

ute will always be an exchange rate issue in a country where the big truck is king
 

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July 22, 2013 - 12:01 am ET
Chevrolet SS: The Australia-built rear-wheel-drive performance sedan will hit showrooms late this year as a 2014 model, with a 6.2-liter V-8 engine that produces 415 hp.
The car is built on GM's rwd Zeta platform, an underpinning on which the Chevy Camaro also rides. Production of a next-generation SS likely will shift to the United States in 2015 or 2016 with a move to GM's new Alpha platform, which underpins the Cadillac ATS and will host the next-gen Camaro.

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We already new the current Commodore is only supposed to last until about that time. There hasn't been confirmation of a replacement so Alpha would make sense.
 

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zeta will be over 10 yo by then and will require replacment, holden want to stay rear drive but the market must provide a business case,
with the colorado ute being here it leaves the door open for alpha to take over the sedan and wagon role even if the alpha platform can't support a ute rear.

ford have yet to confirm this but mustang will be coming to aus with the next gen being engineered for both L/RHD, ford is hopping to stop the faithfull from defecting to holden before the falcon ends production.
 

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July 22, 2013 - 12:01 am ET
Chevrolet SS: The Australia-built rear-wheel-drive performance sedan will hit showrooms late this year as a 2014 model, with a 6.2-liter V-8 engine that produces 415 hp.
The car is built on GM's rwd Zeta platform, an underpinning on which the Chevy Camaro also rides. Production of a next-generation SS likely will shift to the United States in 2015 or 2016 with a move to GM's new Alpha platform, which underpins the Cadillac ATS and will host the next-gen Camaro.

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Yes, we did.

Some are hoping that a manual and the LT1 is offered at that time.
 

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Yes, we did.

Some are hoping that a manual and the LT1 is offered at that time.
This would be an ideal scenario. The next gen SS rolling off the line with the other Alphas in Lansing. More options and more variants. I'll still take the SS that we're getting in a couple months though. I re-read Autoblog's 2008 review of the G8 GXP and I'm so pumped that an updated version of that car is coming back. I drove it once and it was unforgettable. Can't wait.
 

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Holden SS V Redline a sales smash - Autoblog

Going back and reading the comments found this:

Ron
Well the SS will flop here... to expensive for what you get, and a bullsh*t slush box automatic transmission, and they hit it with the Chevy ugly stick....

Bad enough they don't offer a six speed, but to not even equipment with something suitable, like a DCT... Ugh... A slush box auto? really GM?

Rob
GM needs to offer a manual transmission and a Camaro pricetag on the SS Sedan.


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Wow, you're thinking exactly what I was thinking when I read those earlier today too. lol
 

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July 22, 2013 - 12:01 am ET
Chevrolet SS: The Australia-built rear-wheel-drive performance sedan will hit showrooms late this year as a 2014 model, with a 6.2-liter V-8 engine that produces 415 hp.
The car is built on GM's rwd Zeta platform, an underpinning on which the Chevy Camaro also rides. Production of a next-generation SS likely will shift to the United States in 2015 or 2016 with a move to GM's new Alpha platform, which underpins the Cadillac ATS and will host the next-gen Camaro.

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This article directly contradicts everything Mark Reuss has said about the SS. I'm paraphrasing but what he said was basically. "If the SS turns out to be succesfull it can continue past the 2016 cut off as PPV will continue on the long wheelbase which means the Ute can also potentially continue as it shares the Caprice Wheel base. Holden could potentially continue the short wheelbase if numbers justify"


My hot tip is if the Commodore stays RWD one of two things will be the case. It will either go to Alpha which would kill off the ute and Caprice ( hence the talk of continuing PPV/Ute post VF)
Or the second theory for staying RWD is Zeta will get a reprieve as Holden engineers said there is further scope for light weighting the platform including a full reskin.

As it is engineers said if they had re skinned the VF which was the way Holden originally wanted to go the could have taken a further 70 plus kilograms over and above what VF lost. A total of well over 150 kilograms (330 pounds) would have been the goal
 

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good sales in aus will mean a stay of execution for the RWD platform, as long as holden can sell them they will build them.

for the US market, if the number ordered can't justify US production Chev can continue to tap into holdens plant, their is enough noise about manual trans to give chev a case to build it.

ute will always be an exchange rate issue in a country where the big truck is king
With the dollar dropping back from it recent highs the Ute program could get a reboot. I understand the sweetspot is around the 85cent mark. The Chevy SS sedan program was done with the dollar being at parity.
 

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I think we see three years (2014-2015-2016) of SS on the current platform. When the Camaro migrates to the Alpha platform likely the SS will follow assuming the sales volume justifies the need. CAFE here in the US is going to be a bitch to meet come 2015. GM and the other OEM's all face the same challenge... get the 6.2 while you can is my advice.
 
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Then kill it...

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Hey guys the zeta platform has been update it is zeta 2 or second generation that the SS sedan is being made on. I had a 2011 2ss Camaro now have a 2013 2ss night and day dif on handling and cyl deactivation and trans shift time. and the reason for the Camaros some lady took the front end of wifes G8 GT love that car handled real well better than the Camaros I think the shorter wheel base is the problem For Camaros.:)
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