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Another One Bites The Dust!!!!

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We knew it would come to this at some point,,,,,


No Doubt, to be resurrected as a nameplate on some electrified FECAL MATTER,,, in short order!!!

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GM has announced that the Chevrolet Camaro will be retired at the conclusion of the 2024 model year. The final, sixth-generation Camaros will come off the assembly line at the Lansing Grand River Assembly Plant in Michigan in January 2024. "As we prepare to say goodbye to the current generation Camaro, it is difficult to overstate our gratitude to every Camaro customer, Camaro assembly line employee and race fan,鈥 said Scott Bell, vice president, Global Chevrolet. 鈥淲hile we are not announcing an immediate successor today, rest assured, this is not the end of Camaro鈥檚 story.鈥 Chevrolet will offer a Collector鈥檚 Edition package on the 2024 Camaro RS and SS, and on a limited number of ZL1-equipped vehicles available in North America. The Collector鈥檚 Edition will pay homage to Camaro, referencing ties that date back to the development of the first generation Camaro in the 1960s, when the program鈥檚 initial code name was Panther. More information on the 2024 Camaro and the Collector鈥檚 Edition package will be available closer to the start of orders this summer.

Editor's Note:
GM announced last week that Global Chief Marketing Officer Deborah Wahl has "elected to retire." The highly-talented Wahl joined GM in 2018 as CMO of Cadillac and was promoted to GM's global CMO in 2019. Her departure leaves a HUGE void at the company, and this news is as devastating as it is surprising, given the marketing challenges GM faces as it hurtles toward mass EV adoption. Compounding this giant Bowl of Not Good are hints that GM's board of directors is starting to take a more active role in the company's marketing direction, which could include pressuring GM to hire its next CMO from outside the auto industry. No way can this board involvement be seen as a positive development. -WG
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As far as I'm concerned, the 6th Gen was visibly an abomination and gm did it to themselves. Sure, it performed well, but that matters to a fraction of the potential customers. I imagine many a spoiled 16yo girls cringed at the site and asked for a jeep instead.

The camaro ended at the 5th Gen for me, and I don't look forward to the all-electric crossover 7th Gen "Camaro". Get off my lawn lol
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As far as I'm concerned, the 6th Gen was visibly an abomination and gm did it to themselves. Sure, it performed well, but that matters to a fraction of the potential customers. I imagine many a spoiled 16yo girls cringed at the site and asked for a jeep instead.

The camaro ended at the 5th Gen for me, and I don't look forward to the all-electric crossover 7th Gen "Camaro". Get off my lawn lol
I agree! They really could have evolved it into something beautiful, but instead they made it absolutely hideous. I am actually very tired of trying to pretend that GM does anything other than disappoint me, anymore. It started with Reuss and it continues to plummet further with Mary Barra at the helm. I can't stand l*b***l clowns. The SS will likely be the last GM vehicle that I own, other than my '55 210 Sedan. The rush to EVs was the last straw.
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Certainly agree in the main - even the 5th Gen was a disappointment as "retro", and the 2016 re-do on Alpha would have benefitted from a complete overhaul of ergonomics & outward visibility to ensure the problems with 5th Gen were addressed, but they only got worse. I put that on Ed Welburn, and said so more than once. If retro was even necessary, the elements from 2nd Gen would have been the way to take the Camaro design forward after 2015, IMO.

From 50 years later, there's a lot more that has to be packaged into these vehicles in the way of safety systems, impact standards, etc. that makes for challenges. So many of the bells & whistles in vehicles today have become standard to provide convenience & nanny features that too many think are necessary....just give me a "performance pack" version, minimal added electronics.....let me enjoy the mechanical functions of a car without these filters.

I guess that's why I'm building my own.....

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Leave it to me to be the oddball...I think the 6th gen Camaro looks pretty good, not that it matters. I mean it's not a status vehicle or anything. Besides, throughout all of its generations I've always preferred Firebirds. I've owned 3 of them vs 0 Camaros. If there ever was a Camaro style that I didn't like it was the '74-'81 of the 2nd gens.
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If there ever was a Camaro style that I didn't like it was the '74-'81 of the 2nd gens.
Those strong & repairable aluminum bumpers from 74-77 were popular on plenty of Camaro short-track cars! And yes, Firebird certainly did that era much more elegantly.

Still, regardless of the platform shift & refresh, GM might have made a much better Camaro if they had moved away from Gen5 and come up with a completely new body, or brought in some of the early 2nd Gen elements. Impact standards have dictated a great deal of any latitude in design, and the evolution in lighting systems & aerodynamics have made it difficult to really go retro in an appealing way and include nostalgic elements.
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I鈥檒l just leave this here should say enough how i feel about the 6th gen since i bought this one.

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I'll admit that I am a sucker for the 6th gen in ZL1 'vert guise! But, that's where I draw the line! ;) If I were a wealthy man, I'd have added a Shock Yellow 'vert to the stable, but I digress.

I鈥檒l just leave this here should say enough how i feel about the 6th gen since i bought this one.
I鈥檒l just leave this here should say enough how i feel about the 6th gen since i bought this one.
One of my best friends has a 2018 ZL1 and offered me to co-drive a track day with him last year. I declined...I know how I am.
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Leave it to me to be the oddball...I think the 6th gen Camaro looks pretty good, not that it matters. I mean it's not a status vehicle or anything. Besides, throughout all of its generations I've always preferred Firebirds. I've owned 3 of them vs 0 Camaros. If there ever was a Camaro style that I didn't like it was the '74-'81 of the 2nd gens.
I agree with you willy. Looks wise I thought the 6th looked better than the 5th but I never owned one.
Like you I had a 2002 T/A Firehawk 1LE and a 01 Formula so partial to Pontiacs. Nothing they produce today even peeks my interest. It's sad to say.
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Same, I prefer the look of the 6th gen over the 5th gen, but wouldn't want either personally. This demise is more of a statement of the woke direction that GM is going, moreso than the shortcomings of the car in my opinion. In regards to the direction of the car industry, I find myself much more in agreement with the Japanese pragmatism, but even then, Toyoda and Nakamura of Toyota and Subaru (respectively) just got the boot. Mazda seems to be doing it better and approaching the EV push with the skepticism it deserves. Stay in the ICE game as EVs don't make practical or financial sense for well over half the population. That gives you a huge marketshare when other companies go all-in. The wild card there is if/when the government forces automakers to go EV, abandoning half of the population.
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"Cash for ICE"... I mean "Clunkers" 2.0 within 5 years. Nothing like trying to stimulate the economy....love how we learn nothing from history.

On a side note. Mustang was the best value for your buck and decent styling. The challenger was the most retro and won the looks department. Camaro chassis and engine were good but everything else about the Camaro was a compromise vs. the competition. GM would rather make 15 different CUV EV "Blazers"...at least the BW and Zo6 are still hanging on though not for long most likely.
"Cash for ICE"... I mean "Clunkers" 2.0 within 5 years. Nothing like trying to stimulate the economy....love how we learn nothing from history.
I was just thinking about that, early this morning, but then an even scarier thought popped into my head. What if the US government/climate communists take(s) it upon themselves to start purchasing up every ICE vehicle for sale, whether it it be vehicles "for sale by owner" or otherwise, and sends them straight to the scrapyard?? They are already printing fake money, who cares if they print a little more to pay to destroy those dang-blasted gas vehicles. /sarc

Or, another angle could be using liberal state inspection stations to reject new inspections for those with powertrains that don't fit their climate agenda. Just food for thought.
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I think the 6th looked better than the 5th, but they really muffed the front end (on the non ZL1) with the '19 or '20 refresh that they then rushed to half ass fix the following year.

I still really have a burning desire to pick up a stick ZL1 before they go extinct. To be honest contemplating swapping the SS. Would love to keep both but it's more of a driveway/garage space issue than a money one.
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I was just thinking about that, early this morning, but then an even scarier thought popped into my head. What if the US government/climate communists take(s) it upon themselves to start purchasing up every ICE vehicle for sale, whether it it be vehicles "for sale by owner" or otherwise, and sends them straight to the scrapyard?? They are already printing fake money, who cares if they print a little more to pay to destroy those dang-blasted gas vehicles. /sarc

Or, another angle could be using liberal state inspection stations to reject new inspections for those with powertrains that don't fit their climate agenda. Just food for thought.
If you've been paying attention to the housing industry, there's a very similar thing going on. A lot of investment firms have been on a buying spree of single-family homes at inflated prices. Many of these same firms are also building stupid amounts of apartments. When you control home prices, you can force people into those apartments. Point being, even if they don't destroy the ICE vehicles, manipulating prices/availability can benefit EV adoption.
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And Another One Gone, And Another One Gone,,,,,


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And Another One Gone, And Another One Gone,,,,,


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Whaaaaaaaattt!!!

Well, I guess there goes my hopes of getting an RX9!

Rotories forever!

Bansai!!!!!!


My last RX7 in 2013, I sold it to get the SS.

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also my 10th Mazda, hence double meaning for license plate WM'S 10TH.

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