In my not so humble opinion your only real hope is some new colors....Not yet, let us know if you hear anything.
Some are hoping for a stick shift, most are hoping for Mag-Ride, I'm hoping for that and that Blue color of the Daytona Pace Car.
My fear would be that any "used ones" out there will actually be "used-UP ones". Can't imagine giving one up unless it is used up. JMO :duel:I would assume it's the same as the 14.. Although by then you might find used ones.
You do realize that they have to certify those engines and that's not cheap and not economical for low production vehicles. Manual maybe and colors ,diesels are not looked at as performance vehicles. This is not a foreign car crowd going to the country club. The eight speed trans will be in the 2015 z06 not the full line as programing and such is taking a little longer to do.Not that my suggestions will be read, considered, or even cared about by GM I will make some anyway that I would like to see in the future for MY 2015 and beyond SS's. Some of these are what I want, and some are to make the car more appealing to a broader range of buyers so the car sticks around.
1.) LT1 V8, even if it has to be "detuned" so as not to step on the Corvette's Koolaid. Even better up HP on the one in the Corvette and give the SS the current mill. This would give a nice boost in power and torque band, along with improved mileage.
2.) Put an 8 speed auto in the car with a top gear that will get RPM's down to around 1600-1700 at a 70mph cruising speed. Again better fuel economy, and better performance.
3.) More gas engine choices. This should have been obvious from the start to offer a V6 to get mileage up, price down, and more people in one of these cars. The current GM multi-cam V6 is proving to be a good mill, no reason not to put one in ahead of the above mentioned 8 speed auto and get more sales. Look at the closest competition in the Mopar twins and most buyers opt for the V6, and that is fine since it allows the hi-po models to exist.
4.) Offer a diesel. GM needs to get their head out of their backside and fire up the 4.5L Duramax V8 program again for light trucks and SUV's to meet fuel economy regs anyway, and the 4.5L Duramax was supposedly able to fit anywhere a small block would. I would totally be a buyer for a good handling full size sedan with a 300+HP, 500lb-ft diesel under the hood, and 34-36MPG highway. The Europeans sell a lot of these combinations (or close enough) in fact the take rate in Europe for Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz for diesels in their big sedans is at or over 50%, there's a reason for that. Namely they are very refined, get good fuel economy, and can still haul ass. Honestly I would rather have a diesel option than the LT1 if I had to pick. Yes I realize that handling will be a bit compromised with that compacted graphite iron lump up front, but for me the tradeoff would be worth it. I like a car with lots of fuel range.
5.) Offer a manual transmission for enthusiasts. Yes the take rate will be low, but it is on the Corvette too and there is still a manual offered.
6.) Offer more colors of both body, and wheels.
If GM offers numbers 3 and 4 on your list they'll have to put a Malibu emblem in front of the SS. I don't think GM is worried about putting more people in these cars anyway. It's a niche car for a niche market. You can take the SRT off of a Charger and it's just a charger. If you take the SS off of an SS it's a...Not that my suggestions will be read, considered, or even cared about by GM I will make some anyway that I would like to see in the future for MY 2015 and beyond SS's. Some of these are what I want, and some are to make the car more appealing to a broader range of buyers so the car sticks around.
1.) LT1 V8, even if it has to be "detuned" so as not to step on the Corvette's Koolaid. Even better up HP on the one in the Corvette and give the SS the current mill. This would give a nice boost in power and torque band, along with improved mileage.
2.) Put an 8 speed auto in the car with a top gear that will get RPM's down to around 1600-1700 at a 70mph cruising speed. Again better fuel economy, and better performance.
3.) More gas engine choices. This should have been obvious from the start to offer a V6 to get mileage up, price down, and more people in one of these cars. The current GM multi-cam V6 is proving to be a good mill, no reason not to put one in ahead of the above mentioned 8 speed auto and get more sales. Look at the closest competition in the Mopar twins and most buyers opt for the V6, and that is fine since it allows the hi-po models to exist.
4.) Offer a diesel. GM needs to get their head out of their backside and fire up the 4.5L Duramax V8 program again for light trucks and SUV's to meet fuel economy regs anyway, and the 4.5L Duramax was supposedly able to fit anywhere a small block would. I would totally be a buyer for a good handling full size sedan with a 300+HP, 500lb-ft diesel under the hood, and 34-36MPG highway. The Europeans sell a lot of these combinations (or close enough) in fact the take rate in Europe for Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz for diesels in their big sedans is at or over 50%, there's a reason for that. Namely they are very refined, get good fuel economy, and can still haul ass. Honestly I would rather have a diesel option than the LT1 if I had to pick. Yes I realize that handling will be a bit compromised with that compacted graphite iron lump up front, but for me the tradeoff would be worth it. I like a car with lots of fuel range.
5.) Offer a manual transmission for enthusiasts. Yes the take rate will be low, but it is on the Corvette too and there is still a manual offered.
6.) Offer more colors of both body, and wheels.
You do realize that they have to certify those engines and that's not cheap and not economical for low production vehicles. Manual maybe and colors ,diesels are not looked at as performance vehicles. This is not a foreign car crowd going to the country club. The eight speed trans will be in the 2015 z06 not the full line as programing and such is taking a little longer to do.
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It would be a Caprice, and a very nice one at that.Personally...I don't think every car has to market itself to "The Masses". I would prefer it if you leave out the things that make it ordinary, like the V6... Diesel...I'm not feelin' it. If they did that stuff then it wouldn't be an SS anymore.
It wouldn't be too hard to change that, it's just some badging you know.They already have the Caprice on the longer wheelbase. Marketed here as Cop Car only... sold as a nice sedan in Australia and the Middle East.
It's supposed to be a halo car not a full on sales model. But you need to advertise it to get people to know it exist.GM can either widen the appeal of the car to more buyers like Holden does in the cars home market, or the car will most likely go away. They can rename the non performance models something else which would make sense since there are many brand loyal customers who won't accept an SS with a V6 or a diesel. Seems like Caprice might be a good name....
If GM doesn't want to make the investment to certify new engines then perhaps their decision to bring this car over at all was a poor one from a business decision. I can't see how selling 3,000 of these cars per year at $45,000 helps the bottom line or even nets enough $$$ to make certification for the US market a break even proposition.
Again don't take this as an attack on the car, which I like a lot, just a list of platform additions that could help insure this generation of car is a sales success, and hopefully lead to a successor that doesn't take 15 years or so to arrive. I am afraid that GM will have one of their fits of bean counter rage and kill off the whole thing due to low numbers. They have a history of that you know.
Dream all you want... None of those will happen. Ok Maybe 6 for colors but no soup for you!Not that my suggestions will be read, considered, or even cared about by GM I will make some anyway that I would like to see in the future for MY 2015 and beyond SS's. Some of these are what I want, and some are to make the car more appealing to a broader range of buyers so the car sticks around.
1.) LT1 V8, even if it has to be "detuned" so as not to step on the Corvette's Koolaid. Even better up HP on the one in the Corvette and give the SS the current mill. This would give a nice boost in power and torque band, along with improved mileage.
2.) Put an 8 speed auto in the car with a top gear that will get RPM's down to around 1600-1700 at a 70mph cruising speed. Again better fuel economy, and better performance.
3.) More gas engine choices. This should have been obvious from the start to offer a V6 to get mileage up, price down, and more people in one of these cars. The current GM multi-cam V6 is proving to be a good mill, no reason not to put one in ahead of the above mentioned 8 speed auto and get more sales. Look at the closest competition in the Mopar twins and most buyers opt for the V6, and that is fine since it allows the hi-po models to exist.
4.) Offer a diesel. GM needs to get their head out of their backside and fire up the 4.5L Duramax V8 program again for light trucks and SUV's to meet fuel economy regs anyway, and the 4.5L Duramax was supposedly able to fit anywhere a small block would. I would totally be a buyer for a good handling full size sedan with a 300+HP, 500lb-ft diesel under the hood, and 34-36MPG highway. The Europeans sell a lot of these combinations (or close enough) in fact the take rate in Europe for Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz for diesels in their big sedans is at or over 50%, there's a reason for that. Namely they are very refined, get good fuel economy, and can still haul ass. Honestly I would rather have a diesel option than the LT1 if I had to pick. Yes I realize that handling will be a bit compromised with that compacted graphite iron lump up front, but for me the tradeoff would be worth it. I like a car with lots of fuel range.
5.) Offer a manual transmission for enthusiasts. Yes the take rate will be low, but it is on the Corvette too and there is still a manual offered.
6.) Offer more colors of both body, and wheels.
I hope not. Fun car while it lasted. WTS SS. :storm:Dream all you want... None of those will happen. Ok Maybe 6 for colors but no soup for you!
With this chassis going buy buy in a few years they are not going to put anything into it!
Yeah, if this is supposed to be a halo car then GM did a really half assed job.It's supposed to be a halo car not a full on sales model. But you need to advertise it to get people to know it exist.