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06-13-2019 06:15 PM
SoCA-SS
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Originally Posted by Headrat View Post
As far as using crushed rock goes, I gotta get rid of mine!! It is crushed limestone and makes low profile tires(SS) look like frosted donuts.
plus tires will release them on the road, possibly doing damage
06-13-2019 06:08 PM
SoCA-SS some decent ideas above..

here's our actual practice …
living in a very narrow 1920's st, there's no room for cars going both ways .. maneuvering cars into garages using all of street width, is challenging ...
IMO, backing out into traffic is quite dangerous, cameras or no cameras .. safer backing in, caution flashers .. backing into narrow 1920's garages and driveways, so when leaving we're going forward ...
painted guide lines to make sure all cars are within range of tight fits ...

love the grassrete ideas, maybe with moss or pebble-fill instead of grass .. less maint ...

my neighbor spent $30K doing pavestones .. at that price, a $10k turntable starts to look affordable .. its the latest thing in high end homes ...
"I'm building for 2020 and for what younger buyers would want, not folks that rapidly approaching assisted living."

if I was building a new home it be designed with grassrete pebble/sand fill driveways and turntable .. patio & walkways be grassrete with moss .. no harsh cement pads …


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06-13-2019 02:43 PM
Headrat
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Originally Posted by LeadfootCJ7 View Post
First, I'm not sure where exactly you live. I've got a friend that is in the concrete business. If you can be flexible on time he fits smaller jobs like this in when he has bigger jobs and might be more competitive on price. He won't be the cheapest, but he doesn't skimp on rebar and prep which will leave you with a cracking driveway in a couple of years.

Second, I'm not sure what all code you are dealing with. Many people in my area use crushed granite, rock, etc for several reasons. To get around permeability restrictions and also because it's much cheaper. Just some options to consider.

As far as using crushed rock goes, I gotta get rid of mine!! It is crushed limestone and makes low profile tires(SS) look like frosted donuts.
06-13-2019 02:13 PM
Ayrick
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Originally Posted by LeadfootCJ7 View Post
First, I'm not sure where exactly you live. I've got a friend that is in the concrete business. If you can be flexible on time he fits smaller jobs like this in when he has bigger jobs and might be more competitive on price. He won't be the cheapest, but he doesn't skimp on rebar and prep which will leave you with a cracking driveway in a couple of years.

Second, I'm not sure what all code you are dealing with. Many people in my area use crushed granite, rock, etc for several reasons. To get around permeability restrictions and also because it's much cheaper. Just some options to consider.

That reminded me my neighbor used crushed granite and its worth a look if you haven't seen it first hand.
06-13-2019 12:34 PM
LeadfootCJ7 First, I'm not sure where exactly you live. I've got a friend that is in the concrete business. If you can be flexible on time he fits smaller jobs like this in when he has bigger jobs and might be more competitive on price. He won't be the cheapest, but he doesn't skimp on rebar and prep which will leave you with a cracking driveway in a couple of years.

Second, I'm not sure what all code you are dealing with. Many people in my area use crushed granite, rock, etc for several reasons. To get around permeability restrictions and also because it's much cheaper. Just some options to consider.
06-12-2019 09:38 PM
iratollah This is seriously good information, exactly the sort of feedback I'd hoped (and expected) to find here. Thanks so very much guys! Very helpful!

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You've got pretty limited space, but this is the route I'd go.
@speedrye, this is exactly what I need, thank you! You are indeed a gentleman and a scholar, I don't care what everyone else says about you.

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Originally Posted by Smirnoff67 View Post
Any inspiration to be found from neighbors who live on corners of the same busy street?
We are the only corner lot with a front loading garage. The demotivating factor is an HOA that wants our neighborhood that's still staggering from Hurricane Harvey to look the same as when those folks bought homes in 1970. I'm building for 2020 and for what younger buyers would want, not folks that rapidly approaching assisted living. A 1970's ranch style home (amazing architecture, one thing I hated to give up with our rebuild) looks pitiful when elevated 5 feet or more.

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... my question is do you have an estimate for paving work in your area?? $$$ per square foot?? Concrete or asphalt?? I am looking at extensive( 6000+ or -sq. ft.) driveway work and am curious as to the Texas costs.
Ugh, thought I had numbers. Concrete was included in our package with perhaps 1000 or so square feet of flatwork. I can't find a price breakout for the flatwork. In this heat, asphalt driveways can get soft. Beware parking your motorcycle on it's sidestand on the 100+ deg days. Even your center stand can sink. And when driving the twisties on a hot day, those tar snakes get really greasy and can deliver traction surprises.

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You could also consider the use of Grasscrete or a similar product.
The Grasscrete looks much better than porous pavers! Krakatollah will accept this readily over two car offstreet paved parking. I'm going out for a quote. Website says about 30% more than concrete, this would fit into our budget as we're not using entire flatwork allowance. (Of course, it's better if we save bucks but traffic around us is only going to increase.

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Originally Posted by AJB View Post
I would allow 30-36" clearance for car door openings.
Agree!

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Originally Posted by speedrye View Post
Realistically, on an SS, the inside radius of the tightest turn you can make is about 10'-7". I was erring towards a bit more landscaping since I'm assuming the turnaround pad is empty when you're leaving, giving you much more available turning radius. Regardless of radius, if someone is parked in that turnaround area, they're probably not leaving you enough room to get out, so you'd be backing out to the street. I do like the idea of the Grasscrete so that the whole front yard isn't concrete, since that's what we're getting towards.
Good advice!

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Originally Posted by Scheduler View Post
My home situation is eerily similar, corner lot, 2 car garage at right of house...
Thank you for this affirmation, it's very helpful.

Again, the folks on the forum are amazing. There's a wealth of knowledge here that extends far beyond LS3 equipped Aussie saloon cars. But why should we expect less, as anyone who bought an SS must be an informed, knowledgeable, and successful person.
06-12-2019 08:41 PM
Scheduler My home situation is eerily similar, corner lot, 2 car garage at right of house. I have a turnaround going to the right, starts 4 feet from edge of garage, I can back out and turn easy enough 10 feet away. I agree that MUCH easier to pull in garage and back out and turnaround. That's what wife and i both do. Turnaround is wide enough to park 4 cars, 5 in a pinch. Came in handy when my 3 kids lived at home as older teenagers/young adults. The SS and "Black Beauty", my 97 K1500 beater parked at far end. leaves plenty of room to back out. My spot is furthest from house, natch. So, as suggested, make it as wide as you want, just be cognizent of any local code issues (10 ft clearance from structures and whatnot.) Not trying to pre-judge, but I suspect such requirements more lax then here in whacko land. And yes, while I do play Civil Engineer at work, I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night...
06-12-2019 12:30 PM
speedrye
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Originally Posted by AMW View Post
The graphic posted by Speedrye has an 8' radius at the house, which is very tight. I would try to have at least a 10' radius.

Realistically, on an SS, the inside radius of the tightest turn you can make is about 10'-7". I was erring towards a bit more landscaping since I'm assuming the turnaround pad is empty when you're leaving, giving you much more available turning radius. Regardless of radius, if someone is parked in that turnaround area, they're probably not leaving you enough room to get out, so you'd be backing out to the street. I do like the idea of the Grasscrete so that the whole front yard isn't concrete, since that's what we're getting towards.
06-12-2019 12:27 PM
AJB I would allow 30-36" clearance for car door openings.
06-12-2019 11:25 AM
AMW You could also consider the use of Grasscrete or a similar product that would allow you to grow grass in the turnaround. It would be less obtrusive, while providing the functionality that you're looking for. If you go that route, factor in irrigation. The graphic posted by Speedrye has an 8' radius at the house, which is very tight. I would try to have at least a 10' radius. Additionally, if your intent is to provide a sidewalk from the driveway to the front entrance (porch), you'll either want to have a separation between the turnaround and the walk, or incorporate the walk into the turnaround. By using the Grasscrete, you could place the turnaround directly adjacent to the walk, without it looking awkward. Otherwise, you're looking at a whole lot of concrete.
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