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What if Green Energy Isnít the Future?

"Thereís a reason Warren Buffett decided to bet $10 billion on the future of oil and natural gas."

ďEnergy demand worldwide [in 2018] grew by . . . its fastest pace this decade . . . driven by a robust global economy . . . with fossil fuels meeting nearly 70% of the growth for the second year running

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Green energy is defined as renewable natural sources such as sunlight, wind, rain, tides, plants, algae and geothermal ...
Not sure why geothermal is included .. its not renewable .. when its gone, its gone, and so are we ...

Separate challenges/issues ...
1. aircraft
2. ground transportation
3. homes
4. commercial
5. Space travel
6. Pollution

- Solar and wind, with which I have been involved in for some 20 yrs, will be a passing technology of limited use.
- Tidal, not gonna happen in a grand scale ...
- Algae, plants, well, give us unacceptable pollution issues ...

If I was to live another 100 yrs, I put my money on coal, oil, gas, geothermal, trash, and nuclear.
There is enough energy there to easily outlast the human race .. or the planet itself...



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I surprised you have dismissed tides/waves. The potential energy there is colossal. Although it is very difficult to control

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I surprised you have dismissed tides/waves. The potential energy there is colossal. Although it is very difficult to control
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Exactly, which translates to very very expensive to maintain ...
My life experiences sort of guide my opinions .. maybe right, maybe wrong .. but paying off quite well ...

My college projects included nuclear, missile guidance, and solar projects ...
My professional career included E-boats (subs), nuclear missile guidance and radar tracking ...
My moonlighting was - Palm Springs - wind turbines ...
My FAV sports ... SCUBA, sailing ...

I can/have built solar units out of driveways .. with FREE energy, pennies to build ...
Why everyone doesnt do it? a hassle with so much cheap energy avail ...

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Yep, that's a problem. France has one that's been operation since 1967. (260MW). But availability is not that great.

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wind same. expensive (easy $300k to $500k per turbine) and limited by narrow window of wind velocity plus controversial bird strikes ...



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True, but an order of magnitude better than solar!

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Power demand is only going to increase for a while, especially with all the electric cars coming online. I have no doubt that fossil fuel demand will increase. But i'd like the mix overall to include an increasing ratio of other greener options.

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It makes us all feel good, but in reality it will have zero effect on climate change and just makes everyone poorer.

All we are doing is playing into China's economic hands. We are cutting back, by making energy very expensive, whilst they bring on new fossil fuel power plants on a scale unimaginable to us.

In the long term it guarantees that China will dominate us (and Europe) economically.
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It makes us all feel good, but in reality it will have zero effect on climate change and just makes everyone poorer.

All we are doing is playing into China's economic hands. We are cutting back, by making energy very expensive, whilst they bring on new fossil fuel power plants on a scale unimaginable to us.

In the long term it guarantees that China will dominate us (and Europe) economically.
It's true unfortunately. I very much believe we (everyone) are well and truly effed. Without the entire planet being on board with a plan and willing to pay for it, it's like trying to refill a leaky bucket. You are as good as your weakest link.

I do think we'll eventually figure it out, but not until some major cities are underwater or made uninhabitable by climate change. Human tendency is not to look further ahead than our own nose.

We'll get there guys. In the mean time, tell your children to invest in sand bags, or the high ground.
I think the scifi show The Expanse had it right, build that wall, LOL.


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