Here is a 40 plate on a ZL1.

 

You might want to mention your location Dave? :wink:

 

I was just thinking that LOL! This is St Pete FL that’s Tampa Bay area. I have had cars driven or trucked from all over the states and sent kits all over world.

Everything has a Variable Compressor now days, makes no difference. I do need to know if the Compressor is direct drive like a G8 or has an external clutch like a ZL1? It makes a difference on wiring, a competition kit with direct drive has 2 switches and street has 1 switch. ZL1 competition has 1 switch and street has none.

 

A couple thoughts to ponder...

variable compressor

HVAC module reprogramming will be necessary if you want it to be correctly functional.

The HVAC is WAY different than the GTO.

 

Dumb question, but would a chiller eliminate the need for a water/meth kit?

 

Yes and no, I have Meth and a Chiller. Chiller will keep the IAT down but adds no octane. For many people a Chiller is enough but they work well together, AC turns off at WOT and Meth is spraying at WOT.

 

Wrong side of the country

 

How can I purchase on of these for my 2014 SS?

 

What kind of intercooler temps do you see with 100 degree ambient?

 

Well we get close to 100 but more like 95-98 deg, I have never seen ICWT over 55 deg that would be around 85 deg IAT. But WOT AC shuts off so IAT will still climb; most say they still stay below pulling timing in ¼ mile that’s around 130 deg. But once you lift AC comes back on and IAT quickly drops allowing hot lapping or back to back Dyno pulls. The larger the reservoir the better a Chiller works

I work full time @ my day job of over 30 yrs so Chiller has always been in addition to that so I can’t cut the install time I do most of my work on weekends and get parts made during the week. Now I have my Mother 92 to take care of in nursing home so that takes most of my time. I will have to schedule this install well ahead of time; Car will stay inside whole time. Someone local would be great; I have never seen an SS on the street. I have orders to get out and will have to stop taking orders to work in a new install, I have not added any new cars since Mom had her first stroke but want to make this SS happen.

What is up with the SS will it end up another 3 model year car?

 

What is the Cost of one of these systems? Ballpark?

 

I remember the huge sh*t show a couple years back where another guy was trying to steal this product from TrekGTO. It was a big mess and very confusing. I think it was proven that TrekGTO is legit and has been making quality products that actually work.

That being said, I'd be willing to make the 4 hour drive to Tampa, but I don't know if I can be without the car that long. Trek, PM me and see if we can work something out. If not, I know there are a few blown SS's in your area.

Last I can remember it was around $800 or something and there were 2 kits, a street version and a competition version.

 

3 years <10000 units.

Your sales will be counted on your two hands and maybe if you're lucky one foot.

 

IMO this might work for a Maggie but Whipples run way cooler IAT. on a 90 degree plus day IAT don't get past 110 in stop and go. if this was my Maggie i would have been well over 130 easy and pulling timing.

also if you are going to try to stuff that thing on the driver side inner front fender well.... you can't. the Whipple the HC tank fills that whole area. i guess you could route it to another place.



if i went with that concept i would never make anything nor sell anything. glad i don't follow that concept. :wink:

 

Well let me know what the price is for it uninstalled. if it keeps my IAT's down on my whipple it is worth it's weight in gold. lol..

 

I believe being the guinea pig is the only way to get your system quickly. There seems to be a long backlog of corvette and Camaro guys waiting for their systems and have already paid up front.

If this guy was only closer I'd be all over this.

 

Well that blows.

 

Here is Turbo99’s 2010 M6 doing a 10.82 with a Maggie and stock bottom end never out of the car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKqd7FrLpPk

A quote from another form in 2014
There is no additional load on your car engine or A/C system, the A/C system is plenty big enough to support this. I haven't had any less cool A/C inside. You don't keep it on during a pass at the track you just shut it off at the staging light and the water is cold enough to make the pass effective and when you get to the end turn it back on. It has a competition mode for the track and it diverts all the cooling power of the A/C to the system and not inside your car, but also works with everyday driving and your A/C on with no ill effects.
I have had mine for about 3 years now and I was the first to get one on the Gen 5 Camaros.

His car was the first Camaro I did in 2011 with the 30 plate chiller; he is only a couple hrs away and has been one of my test cars in 2013 I updated 90% of it with the new 18” Chiller, full O Ring and new wiring setup. He also had other mods done mean time. You can find his comments on many forums about back to back Dyno testing and hot lapping ¼ mile with very consistent results.

 

I installed my first Whipple Chiller July 2012

Phone pic sent from the Whipple owner, yes that's 30deg ICWT with 85deg ambient temperature. He says with the Super Chiller his car no longer hooks with race tires in first and second. Big seat of the pants difference.

I personally have successfully installed Chillers on …
NorthStar XLR V
CTS V
ZR1
ZL1
Lysholm
Maggie
Whipple
Kenny Bell

And documented all of them on Photo Bucket

QUOTE Turbo99 On the dyno after 3 runs there was zero loss from heat soak, same day 3 runs w/o the chiller and lost 25rwhp.

Quote Turbo99 July 2012 with original 30 plate and less boost than post from 2014.
I also ran at the track last week and 1st pass 95* out with chiller off and going through the Maggie Heat Exchanger IATs started at 105* and ended at 160* run was 11.70 @ 118mph, next pass turned on chiller for 5 minutes and cooled it down still 95* out IATs started at 64* and ended at 115* and the run was 11.25 @ 124mph. So the chiller did its job and kept IATs down and the car pulled no timing and I was able to make my fastest pass yet in the middle of summer no less. 6 mph is a big jump and I lifted because it was a bracket race so should have been 126+mph.

QUOTE rforbes Must be working, had my best time ever.
It shot down the track.:w00t:

Chiller still chilling......
QUOTE GMteSSted Went to Bristol last weekend for the Super Chevy Show. Bristol is traditionally a slow track (Hot, humid & slick). I ran the street class on Saturday (30 mile cruise and 3 back to back hot passes, temp was mid 80's.). I won my index with a three pass average of 12.021. All three passes were within .044 of each other. Every launch my I/C water temps. were right at 40 degrees. There is no way I could have been so consistent with out the Super Chiller!

 

I like this one Turbo99 jump to 1.30 into the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6r-sEovEg7c

This is a great picture GizmoQ sent me over a year after his Chiller installation on his XLR V over spun to 20psi.

Here are the 3 cores Standard 30 plate, 40 plate upgrade and the Xtreme 18”.

Standard vs. Xtreme Chiller.

 

You might recognize the GXP in High Performance Pontiac Magazine from the Chiller pictures in first post; scroll down to after picture 10.

2009 Pontiac G8 GXP - High Performance Pontiac Magazine

Bob worked at a shop that did installs and tuning and saw how well it worked on Camaros, after a year of waiting for a G8 volunteer he took his vacation and drove to FL from TX spent a week in a motel and I loaned him a driver. Bob was a big BIG help as the day he arrived was the first time Mother was hospitalized so with his Machinist skills he stepped up and implemented my high side adapter block design on my V Mill. 2 had to be hand made, one for his car and one for the CNC guys to copy. Bob is one of the many friends I have made in this Chiller venture. Stories I could tell about people traveling cross country to be the Volunteer car, One was a retired air force Colonel from Wisconsin that drove down left his car and flew back and forth on air force free then drove back home. Many very interesting people all the best to work with.

 

If any one that can do there own work want to work with me, I can make a kit close to completion where you would be responsible for completing and documenting hose lengths etc… I would need a little info about car and possibly some pictures and super charger PDF would help but its not that complicated. You would have to find someone locale to crimp 2 AC hose ends or send them back to me. Still prefer a volunteer car but this option is available.

I would say at least half the finished kits are owner installed.

 

Dave,

Do you work with any of the performance shops in Houston? I can do some things myself, but A/C scares me. I would rather let someone else do it right.

 

I hate to say it but I have never had a shop document anything or spend the time needed to make a clean setup. TX probably buy as many kits as all the others put together.

 

Marvin at G force ordered a kit for his G8. I will see if he can help me out. Stay tuned.

 

I don’t even have an inquire from G Force and no G8 deposits and no C6 orders outstanding either as someone mentioned earlier? I hope he didn’t order from that dirty no good, lying ……

 

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I can't confirm that they actually ordered it yet, it was mentioned that one would be going on an 1100 HP G8.

 

I need this for my SS!

 

I agree! After seeing the GTS pictures with the bumper cover off I’m not sure there is even room for a Chiller. I need to get an SS on the lift and look in front of the fender liners. The coolant bottle hangs down low on the right side but there may still be room, the washer tank is on left side but it could be relocated (I try not to do things like that some don’t like it) probably replaced to make room. From the Whipple info I see on here I don’t see an issue running AC hoses or coolant hoses. Where is the Whipple pump?

MSRP is $7650 for the complete kit including 65lb fuel injectors, oversized intercooler reservoir, SCT flash tool, tune.....

What is and where is it located the oversized intercooler reservoir?

Here is the original Camaro Chiller, you can get an idea how it will fit in a tight space. I can make it work as long as there is a space for the core.

 

The Whipple intercooler sits right under the CAI on the drivers side. there is plenty of room in the front.

 

If you mean out front, there is no room, remember you can’t block air flow. There may be room on the right side. The GTS guy strapped his on the front of bumper instead of the impact foam, but I don’t think it would fit under the SS bumper cover.

IIRC the Whipple kit replaces the washer reservoir with a 2 chambered reservoir, 1 chamber for washer fluid and the second chamber for intercooler. Both pumps, i.e. washer fluid pump and intercooler pump mount to the side of this replacement reservoir.

That is interesting and good to know Thanks. Any one have a Pic?