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Drove new 17' manual today and not impressed

Been waiting in a 17' Orange Blast to arrive in my area so that I could see the color in real life and compare the M6 vs A6 trans. My local dealer actually ordered an auto OBM in December for me, but I told him that I really wanted to test the manual before taking delivery later this summer. He's a good friend of mine, so he ran a locate on the GM computer and confirmed that the dealership had actually taken delivery of the car before we took a trip to see it. The car arrived yesterday and was just about to go through the PDI process. The dealer was gracious enough to hand me the keys and let me have free reign. I had my reservations with the manual after reading reviews here. Unfortunately, the reviews are correct concerning the spongy non interactive clutch pedal as well as the notchy transmission shifts. I was totally unimpressed and don't get why so many people praise the manual. It's in all actuality probably just me and my expectations. I've always driven 60's and 70's muscle cars and trucks all the way up to the two old Deuce and a Half 2 1/2 Ton ex military trucks. All of those vehicles had a very manual involved feeling with the clutch pedal as well as the shifter. Maybe it's the hydraulic clutch system and dual mass flywheel that modern cars use. The salesman that showed the car told me that his Corvette was the same way and that the Camaro is likewise. He actually disliked it and traded for a C7 Vette auto which he says is definitely faster and in his opinion more enjoyable than his manual. Upon further conversing, he told me that he tracked his cars with SCCA and he swears that his auto turns consistently quicker lap times than his manual did. I do realize that he has the better suited 8 speed auto in the C7. He offered to let me drive his car, but I figured that may not be good for my bank account! We discussed the auto 6 speed in the SS and he truthfully told me that the car would be much better if GM would have used the 8 speed instead. I will try an A6 next, but I'm kinda bummed and not sure if it will be more to my liking after my experience and conversation. I've read that a tune can make a world of difference in the auto, but I'm kinda just deflated after the manual let me down. I want the four door sedan rather than a cramped two door sports car, but I may not have a choice it seems. Just gonna wait for the A6 to arrive and allow my mind to reset and go in with a non bias positive attitude when I test drive it!
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Been waiting in a 17' Orange Blast to arrive in my area so that I could see the color in real life and compare the M6 vs A6 trans. My local dealer actually ordered an auto OBM in December for me, but I told him that I really wanted to test the manual before taking delivery later this summer. He's a good friend of mine, so he ran a locate on the GM computer and confirmed that the dealership had actually taken delivery of the car before we took a trip to see it.


The car arrived yesterday and was just about to go through the PDI process. The dealer was gracious enough to hand me the keys and let me have free reign. I had my reservations with the manual after reading reviews here. Unfortunately, the reviews are correct concerning the spongy non interactive clutch pedal as well as the notchy transmission shifts. I was totally unimpressed and don't get why so many people praise the manual.

It's in all actuality probably just me and my expectations. I've always driven 60's and 70's muscle cars and trucks all the way up to the two old Deuce and a Half 2 1/2 Ton ex military trucks. All of those vehicles had a very manual involved feeling with the clutch pedal as well as the shifter. Maybe it's the hydraulic clutch system and dual mass flywheel that modern cars use.

The salesman that showed the car told me that his Corvette was the same way and that the Camaro is likewise. He actually disliked it and traded for a C7 Vette auto which he says is definitely faster and in his opinion more enjoyable than his manual. Upon further conversing, he told me that he tracked his cars with SCCA and he swears that his auto turns consistently quicker lap times than his manual did. I do realize that he has the better suited 8 speed auto in the C7. He offered to let me drive his car, but I figured that may not be good for my bank account! We discussed the auto 6 speed in the SS and he truthfully told me that the car would be much better if GM would have used the 8 speed instead.

I will try an A6 next, but I'm kinda bummed and not sure if it will be more to my liking after my experience and conversation. I've read that a tune can make a world of difference in the auto, but I'm kinda just deflated after the manual let me down. I want the four door sedan rather than a cramped two door sports car, but I may not have a choice it seems. Just gonna wait for the A6 to arrive and allow my mind to reset and go in with a non bias positive attitude when I test drive it!
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I'm sorry to hear of your disappointment with the manual, but you are certainly not alone. Time and temp help with the notchiness to a point, as well as a fluid change which I haven't done yet. The clutch feels much different than any that I've had in the past, but once you get the feel for it and it's engagement points I'd not have it any other way as it is light and responsive to what I ask it to do. I also owned an auto SS, and didn't have any issues with that trans either. I've heard about a bit of lag when using the paddles, but I always had a hand on the shifter just 'cause I'm old.
As for the eight speed in the SS I think that's a non starter simply because this car existed in 2013 in Australia, before the LT1 and the eight speed that mates to it.
I do hope that you find an SS/transmission that suits you, as the car itself is something special.
Where is that car located? I'm certain there are people on here that would love to take it home, especially if you were nice to it...
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The A6 has shown all around better times. Many have had skip shift eliminated.
Over the years I learned no two manuals shift or clutch the same. Transmissions
always improve after broken in...
The manual has that driver engagement which is apparently slated as dangerous
along with human drivers. Soon to be regulated out of existence.
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I've driven an MT SS before. I have not driven an MT car in 30 years so I don't have anything to compare it to. Are you comparing your SS experience to anything recent?
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I'm sorry to hear of your disappointment with the manual, but you are certainly not alone. Time and temp help with the notchiness to a point, as well as a fluid change which I haven't done yet. The clutch feels much different than any that I've had in the past, but once you get the feel for it and it's engagement points I'd not have it any other way as it is light and responsive to what I ask it to do. I also owned an auto SS, and didn't have any issues with that trans either. I've heard about a bit of lag when using the paddles, but I always had a hand on the shifter just 'cause I'm old.
As for the eight speed in the SS I think that's a non starter simply because this car existed in 2013 in Australia, before the LT1 and the eight speed that mates to it.
I do hope that you find an SS/transmission that suits you, as the car itself is something special.
Where is that car located? I'm certain there are people on here that would love to take it home, especially if you were nice to it...
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No offense to any of you who have not liked the manual.

However,

I have owned 9 manual transmission cars/jeeps/trucks and never ever have i just not stepped into the next car including the SS (site unseen and undriven full payment) and started to drive it and go and have fun.

I never even think about it. Perhaps, i am just a better driver
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I really like the manual transmission, when I drive it back to back with my manual wrx or frontier it is a night and day difference. I'm still looking to install an mgw shifter to make it even better though.

I know my experience is limited, but I've owned manual cars from Mazda, Nissan, subaru, and chevy and the ss is by far the best to me
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Manual or bust with this car. Just my opinion though.

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